From kde-usability  Fri Feb 18 17:15:38 2005
From: Harijs Buss <hbush () apollo ! lv>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 17:15:38 +0000
To: kde-usability
Subject: Re: "Hide Menubar" proposal
Message-Id: <200502181915.38665.hbush () apollo ! lv>
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> Nuff said, have a look at it:
> http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~soma/konqui_menubar/shown.htm
> What do you think about it?

Lovely ;-)  When I only started to use KDE, I somehow managed to loose menu 
bar several times, probably because of touching key shortcuts unknowingly. It 
was (then) for me quite a problem to get menu bar back ;-)  This "ghost of 
menu bar" you made would have been very helpful then.  I like it. 

Harry

On Friday, 18. February 2005 16:46, Florian Graessle rakstija:
> There have been previous discussions about the "hide menu bar" setting
> in KDE on this list and on #kde-usability. In Konqueror the option can
> be found under Setings -> "Hide Menubar". If it's triggered (or the
> corresponding keyboard shortcut ctrl+m is pressed), the menubar gets
> hidden. It can then only be brought back by hitting ctrl+m or by finding
> the context menu entry. Various posts on forums devoted to linux show
> that some people do have a problem to bring it back. The pop up telling
> them how to get it back is not sufficient since people tend to ignore it
> and click it away.
>
> I think this a usability trap for both the user and the dveloper. The
> former doesn't know how to get the menubar back, the latter doesn't
> know where to place the "Show Menubar" setting on a prominent place so
> the user gets hold of it. Note there are different implementations
> around in KDE, once the "Show Menubar" setting can be found in the
> context menu, some other apps show new a toolbar entry, and so on. So I
> made a mockup which shows how this problem could be solved throughout
> KDE (given it's somehow possible to implement it... ;-)
>
> When the menubar gets hidden it's replaced by a button which is a few
> pixels high and shows the same width as the menubar. Clicking the
> button shows the menubar.
>
> Nuff said, have a look at it:
>
> http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~soma/konqui_menubar/shown.htm
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> Florian
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