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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Remove Home icon from Desktop (was Mini usability study)
From:       Aaron Seigo <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2004-09-30 21:48:31
Message-ID: 200409301548.31458.aseigo () kde ! org
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On September 30, 2004 15:38, Uno Engborg wrote:
> Aaron Seigo wrote:
> >On September 30, 2004 13:24, Uno Engborg wrote:
> >>To fix the apps is not in our power. If we take the road you suggest, we
> >>will
> >>probably have to live with this problem for yet another 30 years.
> >
> >ok, i just did a survey of my ~/ (in Konq) and here are the entries i did
> > not put there myself:
> >
> >	Desktop
> >	public_html
> >	Mail
> >	OpenOffice.org
> >
> >Desktop is KDE
> >public_html is a SUSE thing that makes setting up personal web folders
> > simple. Mail is from KMail.
> >the OO.o dir is there, IIRC, because i downloaded a pre-release version
> > and installed it as my user (as i didn't want it to overwrite the
> > system-wide stable install of OO.o).
> >
> >4 entries.
> >
> >what user visible entries does your ~/ have?
>
> 4 Entries are far too many. Obe would be too many.
>
> Apart from the ones you mention I have the following as well:
>     mbox

old school, not modern or common on the desktop so i wouldn't count this.

>     Visual_Paradigm
>     workspace   (Comes from Eclipse)

developer apps, i'm not particularly concerned about them.

>     folderX*)
>
> *) FolderX is called something else in reality. I can't reveal its real
> name because of a NDA.
>     The program responsible is not released yet, so I may be able to
> pursuade the developer to change the name to .folderX in the final release.

that would be good =)

> If we count the last one out, as it is in a prerelease state, I get 7
> items.  This is almost twice as many as the 4 items I have
> created myself.

but Desktop, public_html are fine AFAIC. ~/Mail needs to go, i've got a patch 
under consideration by the kdepim team to do so). in fact, i'd like to see a 
link there to devices and whatnot. you can't simply count the number of 
entries and measure against that number, you need to count the number of 
uncessary entries. 

simply relocating to ~/Documents or ~/Desktop isn't a solution, since we'll 
end up with the same problems there (we already do in ~/Desktop) and then 
we'll have to explain to people why they have a ~/ though we encourage them 
to stay in ~/<something> ... these days, we hide the root fs from most users 
because they don't need to see that and its confusing/noisy for them. let's 
not remake the mistake of creating a hierarchy they need to understand and 
deal with by doing strange things in ~.

the software IS fixable. but only if we make the right decisions now as 
opposed to working around our current shortcomings and creating new issues in 
the process.

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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