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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Windows-key: Please don't blindly copy Windows
From:       Ellis Whitehead <ellis () kde ! org>
Date:       2004-09-15 17:57:42
Message-ID: 200409151957.42415.ellis () kde ! org
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Hi Lubos,

long time, no see. ;)  My last cvs checkout is from December 2003, and 
unfortunately I don't foresee being able to get into KDE development again 
soon, if ever.  I think about it just about every weekend, but family and 
work...

The Win-key shortcut to the K-Menu isn't very practical, since the K-Menu has 
so horribly many entries that keyboard navigation isn't practical.  For this 
reason, I wouldn't mind the functionality being removed.  Currently, it 
parallels the single Alt-key press activating the menu bar in an application.  
But actually, I think that's a bad misfeature, so maybe you could remove that 
too while you're at it! *grin*

Regards,
Ellis

On Wednesday 15 September 2004 12:33, you wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 of September 2004 03:18, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 September 2004 03:38, Roland Seuhs wrote:
> > > Earlier, the "Windows"-key was a perfectly usable modifier-key (just
> > > like in Windows, BTW). For example I used it to switch desktops (with
> > > Win+Cursor), close apps (Win+Esc), minimize, maximize, etc.
> >
> > this list isn't the proper venue for this IMO. this is an issue to bring
> > up with the person who implemented it, and if they feel the need for
> > usability advice / consultation they can come here.
>
>  It was implemented by Ellis Whitehead (#29105), and since I don't remember
> any recent activity from him, I guess you'll be out of luck there. But I
> think I could handle doing changes in this ugly hack myself, if necessary.
>
> > in any case, looking at my box running KDE CVS here, i don't see the Win
> > key being the default for the popup menu in the keyboard shortcuts area.
> > it's _possible_ to make it the shortcut (which wasn't possible
> > previously) but doesn't seem to be the default? perhaps someone else can
> > confirm or correct?
>
>  No, it actually is enabled by default, but it has a bug causing it not to
> work with NumLock turned on. And it's not configurable (I guess that has
> something to do with me not fixing the bug).
>
>  I personally wouldn't mind dumping this feature. Alt+F1 is not that
> difficult to press, and technically I personally find the code making the
> modifier act both as a key and as a modifier to be really scary (it seems
> to work fine though). Somebody say the feature should go, and I'll gladly
> make it do so ;).
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