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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: General KDE Usability
From:       Ra1n <pk20it () yahoo ! it>
Date:       2004-07-10 10:16:01
Message-ID: 40EFC1E1.60804 () yahoo ! it
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Lauri Watts wrote:
> On Thursday 08 July 2004 20.41, Tim Wunder wrote:
> 
>>On 7/8/2004 2:37 PM, I believe that Ra1n wrote:
>>
>>>Leo Savernik wrote:
>>>
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>>>>Am Donnerstag 08 Juli 2004 13:05 schrieb Ra1n:
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>>>>>What functionality, i doesn't really have sense, while browsing I don't
>>>>>need to go up one level,
>>>>
>>>>Ah, clear. If you don't need it, nobody else ever needs it. How could
>>>>I only have thought otherwise?
>>>
>>>Don't be so sarcastic! tell me how can be useful on a browser the up
>>>button? I mean really, I can't see an use for it
>>
>>Say you click on a link and it takes you to
>>http://www.somewhere.com/someneatplace/
>>and you want to check out the main http://www.somewhere.com website.
>>Just click the UP button, and you're there...
> 
> 
> Indeed.  Click this link: 
> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/release.html
> 
> Now click the "Up" button.
> Now click it again.
> 
> Now hit back twice, so you are back at the first page.  
> Now click and hold the "Up" button - notice the choices, based on the 
> hierarchy, and how this gives you a link to the top level of the site.
> 
> Try playing with it on a site with a really convoluted hierarchy (like this 
> one: http://rabarber.fruitsalad.org/packages/200407080436/4-STABLE/All/ which 
> I have to navigate around daily, and since it's all auto-generated, there 
> isn't any GUI navigation on the pages.  
> 
> I use this constantly.  I'm as mystified by people who can't understand it's 
> utility as you are by people like me.
> 
> Changing the icon to distinguish hierarchal navigation vs history navigation, 
> makes perfect sense - removing it entirely really doesn't.
There are also many (maybe more) examples of sites where this won't 
work, for example:
www.google.com
www.amazon.com
www.kde-look.org (and also kde-apps and gnome-look)
slashdot.org
www.osnews.com

and many others

So I don't think that this feature is so important if most of the 
websites won't work with it, the back/forward buttons work everywhere, 
why there should be a button that most people thinks that is broken (If 
you use it and see that you're going nowhere what you blame the site or 
the software?)

Luca
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