From kde-usability  Thu Jul 08 19:41:20 2004
From: Art Carney <greencarrots () nospammail ! net>
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:41:20 +0000
To: kde-usability
Subject: Re: Konq. Location->Quit Menu Misnomer
Message-Id: <200407081441.20652.greencarrots () nospammail ! net>
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On July 8, 2004 12:07 pm, Jamethiel Knorth wrote:
> >From: Leo Savernik <l.savernik@aon.at>
> >Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 08:40:25 +0200
> >
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> >Am Mittwoch 07 Juli 2004 05:53 schrieb Jamethiel Knorth:
> >[...]
> >
> > > However, I have doubts as to why that was put in the style guide in the
> > > first place. Quit means close the application in most other instances,
> >
> >so
> >[...]
> >
> >The windows *is* the application, from a nontechnical point of view.
>
> In many cases, this just isn't true. Consider The GIMP. It has one head
> window and many other windows. It is appropriate that choosing Quit closes
> all of them. KMail can spawn extra windows, such as for writing an email,
> after starting up. Are they separate programs?
>
> >Additionally, you cannot tell whether two konqueror windows are actually
> >shared by the same process, or are running in different processes.
> >Therefore,
> >making Quit quit the process would lead to totally unpredictable
> > behaviour.
>
> That is a slightly different issue. And, if you actually read through my
> email, you will see that I do not want to just have Quit changed to quiting
> the process. Quoting myself: "Possibly, try using 'Close Tab', 'Close
> Window', and 'Close Program'." You see, Quit in its current state should be
> changed to 'Close Window', as that is what it does. For a program such as
> The GIMP, it should say 'Close Program', and possibly the same for KMail
> and similar programs which spawn what are clearly child-windows.
>


While I agree in principle that a Exit Program option should exist, I don't 
think it should be on the Location menu where it will add clutter and also 
confuse beginners who might think it synonymous with Close Window. How about 
instead if we make it that when the user holds down Shift and clicks Close, 
it will close all Konqy windows? Most people don't really need this feature 
but if we put in a Kandalf tip then the advanced users will learn it's there.
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