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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Shutdown dialog
From:       Frans Englich <frans.englich () telia ! com>
Date:       2004-02-22 13:12:00
Message-ID: 200402221412.00596.frans.englich () telia ! com
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On Sunday 22 February 2004 13:12, Benoit Walter wrote:
> On Saturday 21 February 2004 22:37, Frans Englich wrote:
> > Argh.. I got this "ksmserver.diff" laying in kdebase, against 3.1.1(?)
> > and guess what it does...... I only got myself to blame :)
> >
> :-)
> :
> > * Usability wise, it is IMO hard to find a meaning of the Konqi
> > picture(I'm not reluctant to Konqi or other "non" corporate looks, I'm
> > just pragmatic when it comes to the usability aspect). It could be
> > removed, reducing the information density(especially those big, innocent
> > eyes) and the buttons could be lined up horizontally(we interpret faster
> > and easier horizontally than vertically), made bigger and with more
> > spacing. This would require the buttons to be turned into
> > KIconViewItems(or similar).
>
> A konqi that says good bye (with his hand) would have been cool IMO ;-) But
> of course the layout could be improved, as you said an horizontal layout
> would be easier to interpret (but don't forget that other actions could be
> added, such as ACPI stuff). So that would be great if someone would code
> something (or at least create a mockup) so that we can really see how it
> would look like. I personnally think it is important to use standard
> widgets (such as push buttons...).
>
> > * The only-logout dialog(maysd=false) should not have its own
> > interface(it should at least be a regular dialog!) but could actually use
> > the regular logout dialog by disabling the irrelevant options(consistency
> > as well as communicating what the user is not allowed to do).
>
> Yes. But with only 1 action it would look a little bit odd.
>
> > * I would have called the items Logout, Shutdown, Restart, in that
> > mentioned order. In either way, the logout term used should be consistent
> > with the one used in the only-logout window(currently "Logout")..
>
> Yes maybe. But perhaps there were good reasons to name them "End Session",
> "Restart computer" or "Shutdown computer". I am personnally agains using
> "Restart" because it is not clear if the meaning is "Restart KDE" or
> "Restart Computer"...
>
> > Food for thought!
>
> Cool! Bye the way, have you tried the final version (committed in HEAD?),
> more or less what you can find at:
> http://www.avenheim.online.fr/logout_new3.png
>
> "Return to desktop" has been replaced by "Cancel" and the "What do you want
> to do?" label has been removed.

Yeah, I had a look at the final version, I like it. One day I write a patch 
for the stuff I suggested so we have a real case of how it looks like.

Cheers,

		Frans

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