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Subject:    Re: Tabbed browsing deactivated by default?
From:       David Hugh-Jones <hughjonesd () yahoo ! co ! uk>
Date:       2003-09-05 10:21:04
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Well, I guess that you treat separate tabs as separate windows for this 
purpose. So the problem of "3 windows, each with 2 tabs" is no different from 
the problem of "6 windows". You don't necessarily assume that 2 tabs in a 
single window are related. (This is based on my own browsing pattern: I 
opportunistically open tabs when I need a new view quickly.)

Dave

On Thursday 04 September 2003 11:52 pm, Bernardo Hung wrote:
> On Thursday, September 4, 2003 10:38, David Hugh-Jones wrote:
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> > On Thursday 04 September 2003 3:35 pm, Bernardo Hung wrote:
> > > On Thursday, September 4, 2003 05:19, David Hugh-Jones wrote:
> > > > Well it's true, it did suck particularly. But I think part of the
> > > > suckiness is shared by tabbing. Without tabbing, you can always find
> > > > document X by looking in the taskbar. With tabbing, suddenly you
> > > > aren't sure. Is that webpage on a separate window? Or is it in
> > > > another tab? Or maybe a separate window but you can't see it because
> > > > another tab in that Konq window is currently active (and showing in
> > > > the taskbar).
> > > >
> > > > IIRC, Office 2K did the following, which pleased me very much: it
> > > > kept all your documents in a single window (if you resized or moved
> > > > the Office window, that would apply to all your documents) but showed
> > > > them separately in the taskbar. In effect, it delegated its MDI to
> > > > the taskbar.
> > >
> > > Some people like to put related sites onto different tabs of the same
> > > window, then have a different browser window for each task. Delegating
> > > MDI functionality to the taskbar may add considerable confusion as to
> > > which tab belongs to which window. If I were to think in terms of, say,
> > > "I want the mail window," a taskbar containing 20 Konqueror buttons to
> > > loosely related pages isn't going to help much.
> >
> > True, but this is a problem we have to solve anyway (at least, if you
> > have as many windows open as I often do), and there are ways round it
> > (e.g. taskbar grouping).
>
> I agree, it makes sense to group tabs of the same browser window into that
> browser's task button. But what if multiple browser windows have already
> been grouped into one task button (i.e. taskbar too full)? Then you'd
> either end up with a list of every tab under one task button (messy), or a
> list of all browser windows which open up into submenus showing the
> individual tabs (which won't look half bad, but is inconsistent with the
> menu items found in regular grouped task buttons).
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