Hello list, Sorry for jumping from topic to topic, but I've come across something bothering when doing descriptions for the k menu: the categories. The current categories found in KDE have some oddities which I've marked below. Applications [1] Development Editors [2] Edutainment Games Graphics Internet Multimedia Office [3] PIM [4] Settings [5] System Toys Utilities 1. Applications is home to various completely non-related applications, all of which have no trouble fitting in existing categories. 2. This category contains only text editors, all of which fall in the 'Utilities' category. Note that the Editors category only has 3 applications. 3. Office holds all KOffice applications. By changing the name to Productivity we could group applications that currently do not strictly belong to the Office category, but are related in that they're often use for some form of personal administration (vs. company administration). 4. PIM is a category that sprung to life because of the kolab client efforts. All it's applications could easily be placed in Office (or Productivity). 5. Settings contains either utilities or kcontrol/kcontrol related applications. Having a settings category makes it easy for doing computer support, but also aids the user by being able to open the relevant 'application' from the K Menu instead of having to start a separate application first. If we remove the oddities we're left with: Development Edutainment Games Graphics Internet Multimedia Productivity Preferences* System Toys Utilities * This will not be an application category, but rather an item under 'Other Actions'. Which is remarkably similar to GNOME: Development Tools Games Graphics Internet Multimedia Productivity System Utilities Thoughts? - wvl _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability