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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KDE3 defaults
From:       Neil Stevens <neil () qualityassistant ! com>
Date:       2003-08-17 19:18:02
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On Sunday August 17, 2003 12:13, William Leese wrote:
> Neil Stevens wrote:
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> >On Sunday August 17, 2003 06:13, Mikolaj Machowski wrote:
> >>On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 04:20:28PM -0700, Neil Stevens wrote:
> >>>>>A text editor is a basic feature of a unix environment, though.
> >>>>
> >>>>Of a CLI not GUI.
> >>>
> >>>This isn't about UIs, this is about OSes.  kde-usability cannot
> >>> detach KDE UI and usability from the OSes KDE runs on.  Until every
> >>> underlying configuration file of every system setting on every
> >>> operating system is implemented with a KDE UI, then even novice
> >>> users will have need for text editors from time to time.  Novices
> >>> will probably be reading a tutorial or being guided by another user,
> >>> but they still need the text editor.
> >>
> >>There should not be that necessity.
> >
> >There is, though.  Wishing it weren't so doesn't change that.  KDE is a
> >graphical environment for Unix, and Unix does bring a requirement for
> >consoles and text editors.
>
> Nonesense. Do Mac OS X users require a text editor and console? No.
> They're useful, but not a requirement. I know quite a few people happily
> running Redhat 8 on their workstations who know nothing of *nix
> filesystems and configuration files.

I'm pretty sure Mac OS X ships with GUI controls for everything on the 
system, and authors of third-party apps for the OS write UIs, too.  Can 
you guarantee the same for every OS KDE runs on?

Note that as soon as a Mac OS X user wants to *use* the unix environment 
available, instead of just running Mac OS X, he will need a console the 
same as everyone else.  So the comparison between Mac OS X and Unix really 
isn't valid.

- -- 
Neil Stevens - neil@qualityassistant.com

"I'll believe it when I see it." -- George Walker Bush
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