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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Fwd: [Bug 59940] New: Adoption of dotNET sytle and MKUltra
From:       Levi Burton <ldb () puresimplicity ! net>
Date:       2003-06-18 1:47:43
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On Tuesday 17 June 2003 08:23 pm, Henrique Pinto wrote:
[...]
> I have three problems with it:
>
> 1) The name: KDE should not use, by default, a theme that has a name
> somehow related to Microsoft.

I agree.

> 2) KMenu: it looks really odd to have three different "colors", the
> sidebar, the icon bar and the menu itself.

I am not sure what you mean by sidebar.

> 3) Icons on buttons: they just don't work as expected (unless you expect
> text to be over them).

I agree.  I have tried icons on buttons and turn them off after a few hours.  
I personally don't like them, but that's just me.

> If these three problems are solved, I'll totally agree on making it the
> default KDE theme. Myself, I don't think I'll change my style now (I'm
> using QinxFlat).

I need to try QinxFlat.

> Maybe the "iconbar" different color should be configurable...

I agree.

> For the windec, I have no objection on keeping Keramik. MKUltra goes better
> with simpler themes, like QinxFlat and dotNET, but, depending on your color
> scheme, the buttons are really hard to see.

I use the KDE2 windec for a couple reasons:

1. Most importantly, I can configure the height of the title bar.  This is 
extremely important to me because I like to use large fonts in my title bar.  
No other windecs I have tried allow me to adjust the title bar height.  
I think it also could potentially confuse a user to have an option available 
in one decoration, but not the other -- it was to me.  I expected to have the 
very same option in other decorations , but they were not there.  This was 
not behavior i was 'expecting'.

2.  It displays the application icon in the title bar.  I think this should be 
mandatory for all window decorations -- it is a very convenient visual cue.

> Anyway, I don't think things such as these issues should be decided without
> great usability researchs first. Defaults are not really that important for

Does KDE have a website were users can fill out usability forms?  Something 
like this would be great, something similar to a restraunt feedback form.  
For example, questions such as:

   1. What do you like most about KDE.
   2. What do you like least about KDE.
   3. What is your favorite KDE application.
   4. Which KDE window decoration do you find yourself using the most.
   5. Which KDE theme do you find yourself using the most.
   6. Which combinations of window decorations and themes do you find yourself   
       using the most.
   7. Do you use windows regularly and if so, what do you like in windows that   
       you would like to see in KDE and vice versa.
   8. What fonts and font sizes do you use the most?
   9. What color schemes are your favorite?
 10. What color schemes are your least favorite?
 11. Are the current color schemes satisfactory?  Would you like more/better  
       schemes?
 12. If you were to change one thing about KDE, what would it be? (this would  
       probably be their least favorite thing about KDE).

So on and so on.  I think you get the idea.  If something like this exists -- 
great.  If not, i think it would help.  


-- 
Levi Burton
http://www.puresimplicity.net/~ldb/

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