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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: concept: action area in konqueror
From:       David Hugh-Jones <hughjonesd () yahoo ! co ! uk>
Date:       2003-02-27 11:27:54
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I think this is a very cool idea. My only question is, why have it in
the top bar rather than in the sidebar? It seems like we already have
some space available at the side, so is there a need to take up more?

Dave

On Thu, 2003-02-27 at 09:41, Luke Chatburn wrote:
> Hi Aaron...
> 
> Yeah, getting rid of the status bar would make sense. I think there are
> certainly usability gains if this is done, since at the moment, it can be
> tricky to work out which pane is selected in a multi-paned view. The green
> dot isn't that intuitive sometimes. Having a visible context "You are
> working over here!" bar, might resolve that.
> 
> Space is the issue :-/ I just made the icons 48x48 because I could, to match
> the icons underneath. I think something that is worth remembering, though,
> is that there is alway the capability of the user to shrink the width of the
> bar to the point where they can't really see much. There are probably also
> situations where we want to offer more tasks than space provides, no matter
> the icon size. Some sort of rotation bar/sideways scrolling needs to be
> implemented for these cases, I think.
> 
> One other point to note, is that if it gets too small, it is less visually
> obvious, and becomes effectively another toolbar :-/ I went for the "Hey!
> Look at this! See what you can do now!" thing :)
> 
> > i'm a little concerned about trying to offer "selected file" based actions
> > rather than simply "view" actions there due to the annoying time i had
> using
> > them while using XP[1]. but it would be interesting to experiment with
> > indeed...
> 
> Fair point :) It was just that I had an image selected when I took the
> screeny and couldn't be bothered to do a new one. It might be nice to do,
> though.. View options are context for an unselected view and selected stuff
> gets context too?
> 
> I must admit, I was amused at the thought of Konqy, while web browsing,
> popping up the bar with "Edit", "Set as Homepage", etc. on right click or
> something. The Mozilla users would go green :)
> 
> -Luke
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo@olympusproject.org>
> To: <kde-usability@mail.kde.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: concept: action area in konqueror
> 
> 
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> > On Wednesday 26 February 2003 01:46, Luke Chatburn wrote:
> > > Hi...
> > >
> > > http://www.silklantern.com/snapshot7.jpg
> > >
> > > Just a random test idea. I may be getting what you are envisioning
> > > completely wrong, Aaron.
> >
> > that was pretty much exactly what i was thinking of =)) this could replace
> the
> > status bar at the bottom so that it wasn't taking up _too_ much extra
> room,
> > as well...
> >
> > the challenge will be ensuring we can fit all the necessary items into it.
> the
> > large icons look nice, but may well end up taking too much space.
> > unfortunately i'm not an artist, so it would be interesting to see other
> > people's[1] takes on this with an eye to being a bit more compact
> >
> > i'm a little concerned about trying to offer "selected file" based actions
> > rather than simply "view" actions there due to the annoying time i had
> using
> > them while using XP[1]. but it would be interesting to experiment with
> > indeed...
> >
> > [1] including you Luke, of course =)
> > [2] I used XP for 2 days a few months ago. most of the time i futzed
> around
> > with the file manager to see what it was like. learned a lot about what i
> did
> > and didn't like ;-)
> >
> > - --
> > Aaron J. Seigo
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