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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kdeartwork/kwin-styles/cde
From:       Klas Kalass <klas.kalass () gmx ! de>
Date:       2002-08-28 14:45:18
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Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 05:16 schrieb Karol Szwed:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Klas Kalass wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 27. August 2002 16:21 schrieb Karol Szwed:
> > > kdeartwork/kwin-styles/cde cdeclient.cpp,1.7,1.8 cdeclient.h,1.2,1.3
> > > Author: gallium
> > >
> > >
> > > Modified Files:
> > >          cdeclient.cpp cdeclient.h
> > > Log Message:
> > > - Add some trivial fixes to make things look the same with --reverse.
> > > - Remove double-click-to-close from CDE.
> >
> > hmmm, is this really necessary? CDE is the style of choice if one wants
> > to get close to the look of IRIX and for that the double-click is
> > necessary (AFAIR there is no 'X' in IRIX). I`d vote for keeping the
> > double-click for this style.
>
> It was agreed to make the double-click to close redundant for useability
> reasons. This was the only client left that didn't have this functionality
> removed, hence the change. If you really feel this is necessary, I'd
> suggest making it optional via a checkbox in the config module with the
> default being off for consistency with all other styles.

Am Mittwoch, 28. August 2002 05:54 schrieb Rik Hemsley:
> #if Cristian Tibirna
>
> > And if you sit and think about it, CDE is _so_ ugly, that it's a
> > wonder there are people not willing to invest the whatever effort
> > necessary to reaccomodate to KDE-HighColor, or Light v3, or B3 or
> > Keramik. This means, these people have a hindsighted reason for not
> > reaccomodating and might well be that the doubleclicking habit is
> > part of this reason.
>
> I agree completely, except with CDE being ugly. I think it's nice
> because it is not always 'in my vision' - it's very subtle, allowing
> me to concentrate on what's _in_ the window.
>
> > Thus, I'd say, for CDE, just let the double-click there (i.e. enabled
> > by default), with no checkbox at all (KDE has big problems with
> > over-configuritis already).
> >
> > What do you think?
>
> I think there's not much point emulating the look but not the feel,
> therefore double-click-to-close should stay in the CDE style, the
> Windows style, and whatever else has it in the 'real' version.
I agree and I understood the discussion on kde-usability to be about the 
original window decorations, not about the ones where this behaviour is 
present in the original.
Therefore I take this diskussion to kde-usability and hope they give an OK to 
reenable double click for styles like CDE (and probably Redmond).

Regards,
  Klas

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