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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: Clipboard
From:       "Friedrich W. H. Kossebau" <Friedrich.W.H () Kossebau ! de>
Date:       2002-08-05 0:44:04
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Matt Bonyak wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 04 August 2002 11:26 am, Klas Kalass wrote:
> 
> > > 5. I am not sure about this: Wouldn't it make more sense if the
> > > clipboard is not greyed out if no content is available but shows the
> > > status by an empty clipboard? The clipboard could be greyed out if
> > > inserting is not possible, like in readonly mode.
> >
> > Inserting is not possible if there is nothing in the clipboard either, no?
> > Although I usually dislike automatically changing things in the UI I think
> > it sounds like a good idea to combine this: show an empty clipboard that is
> > greyed out when there is no selection.
> 
> I'm hardly the one to complain about inconsistancies, but here goes: the user
> is being trained to treat grayed-out buttons as "not usable at this moment,"
> and colourful ones as "you can use me."  I think it's best that we keep that
> arrangement.  I'm also afraid that adding and removing the paper like that
> may be a source of confusion.  However, if the paper is always there when it
> is coloured, and never there when it is grayed, it may be acceptable.  But
> then we risk the "are these two different icons?  What does the plain
> clipboard do?" confusion as well.  So Agan, I think it should merely be
> grayed out.  But that urks me, because I also think it should be obvious WHY
> things are grayed out.

Conflict might be my proposed usage of the clipboard symbol both as
status monitor and as an action button. The idea came from the missing
feedback for the copy action as nothing changes visually. Seems I have
to redraw my proposal. 

But I would like to propose something different: Show no inserting and
cutting symbol in readonly mode at all.

Friedrich

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