From kde-usability Sun Jul 21 20:14:37 2002 From: "Friedrich W. H. Kossebau" Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 20:14:37 +0000 To: kde-usability Subject: Re: Mounting Media X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-usability&m=102728268715952 And a last one for today :) Christoph Held schrieb: > > On Sunday 21 July 2002 17:05, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > Christoph Held schrieb: > > > On Saturday 20 July 2002 20:51, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > > > Christoph Held wrote: > > > > > On Saturday 20 July 2002 15:43, Friedrich W. H. Kossebau wrote: > > > > > > > > Unless someone improves it. > > > > > > Yup but you will need the magic wand. Otherwise, it will never be > > > possible to drop and drag files onto cdrw drives and it will never be > > > possible to prevent loosing data, just to name two. Its a ill concept. > > > > Pardon, I don't get it. Where is the "ill" in the concept? > > e.g. floppy:/ vs mounting. With floppy:/ joe user just can't do anything > wrong. joe user could select floppy from the file dialog type the filename - > done. It's just perfect. With mounting there is so much that can go wrong. > joe user might not find the mounting points, he might get lost in the root > dir, he might try to unmount but has left a directory of the media open, he > might not unmount at all. But I am lacking technical understanding -maby > somone is doing miracles. Yes, I agree: pure mounting of removables is not for joe user. Even not for me. I don't like to have to check for the mount status. Maybe that is why I always use the internet to transport my files to university and back although I expect it to being more expensive (simple call-by-call ISP) than using a floppy disc. Too sad I don't have a good experience with supermount to finally get you to the ground at this point ;) (Hey, is there noone else to help me?) > BTW: I am ashamed to tell the truth (really no joke). When I first started to > use a sun workstation, I used I knife to eject cdroms... Oh dear... hope your admin didn't find out. I had the luck to have someone next to me to tell me to type "eject" on that prompt thingie when I got in panic (was it really a floppy slot, not a ventilation slot? no eject button next to it like at home) ;) > > > How can I save from openoffice to konqueror? Or Gimp? No, don't tell me > > to save to my home directory, then move it within konqueror... > > yeaa, that's what I had in mind :o) noooo... no way :o) > > Yes. But where there is both access by kio-slaves and mounting by os > > there should be only access by the os' vfs. > > > > > automount). But the data loosing file dialog would only be a non-kde > > > feature. > > > > I must have missed something: please, what data loosing file dialog? > > When is it shown? > > :-) mount /mnt/floppy, copy a file and eject (without unmount). AFAIK the file > is not on the floppy, but I admit I have never tried... If you use floppy:/ > that can't happen, I guess. whether the file is on the disc depends on the timing for the write buffer, I guess, but my experiences with linux on x86 are a total confusion of linux' vfs with remove before unmount (which fails and even fails if you inserted the disc back AFAICR). > > > Anyway, you have won since there isn't any code that supports the io slave > concept ;-) Also joe's are not the typical users of kde. So it doesn't really > matter. It does. I don't have won as long as there is a default "floppy:/" url behind the floppy symbol on the desktop and elsewhere as default ;) (and the perfect usage of supermount of course) And I would like to have joe user as typical user, believe me. What is easy for him, is easy for me :) > Greetings > > Christoph Back to work then ;) Friedrich _______________________________________________ kde-usability mailing list kde-usability@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-usability