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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: opinions on gnome2
From:       Daniel Molkentin <daniel () molkentin ! de>
Date:       2002-07-19 23:37:43
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On Saturday 20 July 2002 01:31, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
>On Friday 19 July 2002 04:50, wvl wrote:
>> starting kpersonalizer when KDE starts for the firsttime, it should start
>> an interactive tutorial.
>
>this is an excellent idea, if not a new one. it could be as simple as a
>web-base presentation (open konqueror to a set of local HTML pages) or as
>complex as a full-fledged into app (does anybody here remember the "how to
>use a macintosh" program that apple distributed with all macs in the 80s? it
>covered things like "how to move your mouse" heh)

Though even the mouse tutorial makes sense, it's only useful for 
out-of-the-box installations (think Walmart), because if you install KDE or 
even compile it from source, you most likey know how to use a mouse ;)

>once through the tutorial, THEN kpersonalizer could be available (it is
> quite popular and liked by users i talk to ... though i agree its timing is
> a little innapropriate)

wvl states that KPersonalizer is flawed. That is particulary true. 
KPersonalizer started as a quickhack before KDE 2.1 to ease configuration of 
style in a central place that did (and still up to now does not) exist in 
kcontrol. Still kpersonalizer's tasks do not neccessarily overlap with those 
of kcontrol:

KPersonalizer should boil down to "What kind of system are you used to"?

The keyword on the kcontrol is "Thememanager". Currently it is very hard to 
place themes and even tho it works it is not very convinient. We're simply 
lacking coders in this area (I tried to bundle the existing modules but ran 
out of time...). If you have time, please contact me.

>would you be interested in putting together the information such an intro
>tutorial?

The problem w/ introductions is that many distributors will replace them. 
KPersonalizer was designed to allow distributors to add addtitional tabs ( a 
real plugin interface has never been realized, tho).

SuSE for example has the "SuSE Tour". The question is: How far do we / can we 
care about such "OEM" integration?

Cheers,

</daniel>

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Daniel Molkentin <molkentin@kde.org> | The K Desktop Environment
KDE - Konqueror your Desktop!
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