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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: kicker kcm: position tab
From:       Eric E <whalesuit () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2002-04-24 19:58:07
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I hope this isn't too late in the game, but can't you position the panel just 
by dragging it?  Does the panel stay where you last put it? (I've got a 
Matlab session running, so I can't logout and back in to check)

It seems like a kcm option for this behavior may be overkill, except perhaps 
for generating templates for all users.  OK granted, if you've got a full 
taskbar, it can be pretty hard to find panel space to grab to drag it to a 
new location.  But perhaps we should address that problem within kicker as 
visible, rather than kcm.

This seems like a good time to throw in a request for task and toolbar locking 
- nothing more annoying than having to help someone find a toolbar they torn 
off and closed over the phone.

Also, I presume changes made by dragging will show up in the kcm?

Finally, if we do make it a kcm setting I also prefer the push buttons to 
radio buttons for your widget.  And perhaps 8 push buttons for the 
panel-raising screen edge.

Cheers,

Eric

On Wednesday 24 April 2002 11:56 am, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> On April 24, 2002 11:43 am, Simon Edwards wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > > so this afternoon i took a stab at the position tab in kicker's kcm.
> > > this is very much a draft and some of the wording still needs more
> > > work. however, it already accomplishes:
> >
> > It's an improvement for sure.
> >
> > >  o uses a simpler top-to-bottom layout
> >
> > agreed.
> >
> > >  o uses visual placement cues to help with the screen edge setting
> >
> > much better,
> >
> > >  o changes size to use two radio buttons to switch between standard
> > > sizes and custom. standard provides a slider with
> > > tiny/small/medium/large, custom provides a slider from 24 to 128 (the
> > > limits of custom sizes)
> >
> > I would lose custom. It's over kill.
>
> again: "we can't remove configurations randomly because we personally may
> not use them"... i have no problem with removing certain options from the
> UI such as hide button size or merging similar options (e.g. animation
> speeds), but custom size was recently added after a LOT of discussion on
> the matter and is used. i don't see it being a huge problem, quite
> honestly.
>
> > I've taken the suggestion from Wilco and quickly turned it all into mock
> > up screen in GIMP. It should (!) be self explainatory. The monitor
> > basically previews the whole setup. (I'll would probably be fun for the
> > user to play with too! ;-) )
> >
> > http://www.simonzone.com/software/kdegui/Kicker_Position.png
> >
> > feedback?
>
> pretty much what i had in mind. this will need to be hand coded. designer
> isn't up to this one ;-)
>
> the only difference between what you have and what i'd like to put together
> is that instead of radio buttons i want to use push buttons, and instead of
> a screenshot of an actual kicker i'm probably just going to use a  plain
> qframe. that way i can resize it freely according to the size settings
> (length, size/thickness). i won't get to this before the weekend though.
>
> i'll also rip off the classes for the monitor from the background kcm so
> you get the proper background showing in the monitor too =) this is going
> to be very spanky, if not a bit more work.

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