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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: The K Menu is too large
From:       Jono Bacon <jonobacon_lists () yahoo ! co ! uk>
Date:       2002-03-19 15:01:27
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Hi,

I agree that Kicker needs some organisation. How do you fancy doing a study 
into it and writing a report with some data gathered from users on how they 
react to the menu. Maybe then a better Kicker can be discussed.

	Jono

On Monday 18 March 2002 9:39 pm, Emerald Arcana wrote:
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> On March 18, 2002 16:27 pm, Wilco Greven wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Monday 18 March 2002 21:53, Marten Klencke wrote:
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > It's monday again, so here's my suggestion for a new app of the week:
> > > Kicker. We had some discussions about possible improvements to the
> > > K-Button, as well as about the small arrows in KDE3.
> >
> > Will this be about the core only, and discuss the individual applets
> > later? Or are we going to discuss everything involving kicker? Personally
> > I think it's better to restrict ourselves to the core first.
>
> Would the K Menu be considered part of the core?
>
> I think the default configuration of the K Menu is much too large.  I've
> launched four programs on it and it's already giving me a second column on
> a 1024x768 screen.  (This was noticed on a freshly-created user on KDE3
> beta2).
>
> I'm looking at it and am thinking that Toys, Quick Browser, Word
> Processing, Preferences and Configure Panel should be removed from a top
> level setting. (I would argue that Editors should be moved around as well,
> and that the distinction between "System" and "Utilities" should be better
> defined).
>
> It would be nicer to have Toys subdivided into a category including toys
> and games together.  I think Word Processing should be moved under
> 'Office'. Preferences and Configure Panel argueably should be removed
> because it is accessible under KControl.
>
> I saw a demo of Xandros Linux Beta1, and the first thing you notice is that
> they created a "Programs" menu and put the applications into something like
> five categories.  I don't remember what the categories were exactly, but
> they were similar to "Multimedia", "Office", "Games", "Utilities", and
> something else.  And that was it.  The presenter there (I heard the same
> from Corel Linux promoters) that 'other' distributions would give you three
> rows of icons on the desktop and a menu that reached past the top of the
> screen, and that they were different because they took the time to clean
> that sort of silliness up.
>
> I was watching someone do an install for someone else, and we got stuck on
> LILO, so we were looking for one of hte LILO configuration GUI tools
> provided by Redhat 7.2.  He spent about 2 minutes trying to look for it,
> somehow found it, and then after we rebooted, we spent another 2 minutes
> trying to find it until I pointed out that it was in the "most recently
> used" list.  I think that's an indication of the K Menu being too large on
> a default
> configuration.
>
> I would like to see the content of the K Menu shrunk dramatically.
>
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