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Subject: Re: 15.04 feature freeze exception for dolphin and dolphin-plugins
From: Emmanuel Pescosta <emmanuelpescosta099 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2015-03-02 21:17:42
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Thanks everyone for their feedback.
Given that there were some concerns about the Dolphin repository splitting,
we haven't pushed this forwards and we have decided to abort this request.
At least now everything is ready for 15.08 with plenty of time. ;)
> Ok, i'm tired of being the bad guy,
You are absolutely NOT a bad guy, all your concerns were justified!
Thanks again to the release team (esp. Albert!) and to David for helping me
to move Dolphin Qt5 a huge step forward!
Cheers,
Emmanuel
2015-03-02 19:54 GMT+01:00 Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org>:
> El Diumenge, 1 de març de 2015, a les 22:53:57, Albert Astals Cid va
> escriure:
> > El Diumenge, 1 de març de 2015, a les 21:01:15, David Edmundson va
> escriure:
> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org>
> wrote:
> > > > El Dissabte, 28 de febrer de 2015, a les 00:40:45, David Edmundson va
> > > >
> > > > escriure:
> > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org
> >
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > El Divendres, 27 de febrer de 2015, a les 11:04:57, Vishesh
> Handa va
> > > > > >
> > > > > > escriure:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Albert Astals Cid <
> aacid@kde.org>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > What needs to be done to release the KF5 based version of
> > > > > > > > > dolphin
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > dolphin-plugins:
> > > > > > > > > * remove dolphin from kde-baseapps
> > > > > > > > > * merge frameworks branch into master in dolphin and
> > > >
> > > > dolphin-plugins
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > The requirements for dolphin:
> > > > > > > > > * Qt >= 5.4
> > > > > > > > > * KDE Frameworks >= 5.7
> > > > > > > > > * ECM >= 1.6
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As I already mentioned in another mail, you also need
> > > > > > > > baloo-widgets
> > > > > >
> > > > > > that
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > undereleased. Who is going to review and release
> baloo-widgets
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > KF5?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does it really need to go through review? It has been shipped
> with
> > > >
> > > > KDE4.
> > > >
> > > > > > I don't know, you tell me, how much has the code changed?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We can just make a release. The KF5 port has been ready for a
> long
> > > >
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > > > I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > just haven't pushed to make a release of it, since it's
> difficult
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > where to release it. I suggest we release it part of the
> > > > > > > application
> > > > > > > release, if Emannuel is alright with that.
> > > > > > > Otherwise Dolphin can be released without Baloo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you think our users would appreciate losing those features?
> > > > > > What is our goal in here?
> > > > > > Release a KF5-based Dolphin for the sake of releasing a KF5-based
> > > >
> > > > Dolphin?
> > > >
> > > > > > Or do we want to give our users the best posible user experince?
> > > > >
> > > > > That's a somewhat loaded question.
> > > >
> > > > It is not a loaded question, it's an honest question, which by
> answering
> > > > with
> > > > another question you're trying to not answer.
> > > >
> > > > OK, I'll answer very clearly.
> > >
> > > It's not being pushed "for the sake of it".
> > >
> > > I think the KF5 version gives the best possible user experience.
> > >
> > > > Which do we want to give our users? The one which is being actively
> > > >
> > > > > supported or the one that isn't.
> > > >
> > > > Is suddenly kdelibs4-Dolphin broken?
> > >
> > > A little bit.
> > >
> > > It uses the KPart from konsole. Konsole is frameworks based. Unless
> > > distros
> > > work around it it doesn't load.
> > >
> > > kdelibs4 KRatingPainter can't the breeze icons properly so everything
> > > appears as 5 stars (it desaturates a grey icon). This is fixed in
> > > frameworks.
> > >
> > > It currently shares the same database as Baloo 5; that is going to
> change
> > > databases which means anything using the old libs will stop working.
> >
> > Ok, i'm tired of being the bad guy, do whatever you have to do to make it
> > the release happen and tell me all the extra repositories that need to be
> > part of the release.
>
> You have approximately 3 hours to make this happen, don't know what you're
> waiting for to be honest.
>
> Albert
>
> >
> > > David
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > release-team mailing list
> > release-team@kde.org
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team
>
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Thanks everyone for their feedback. <br>Given that \
there were some concerns about the Dolphin repository splitting, we haven't \
pushed this forwards and we have decided to abort this request.<br>At least now \
everything is ready for 15.08 with plenty of time. ;)<br><br>> Ok, i'm tired \
of being the bad guy,<br><br></div>You are absolutely NOT a bad guy, all your \
concerns were justified!<br><br></div>Thanks again to the release team (esp. Albert!) \
and to David for helping me to move Dolphin Qt5 a huge step \
forward!<br><br></div>Cheers,<br></div>Emmanuel<br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-03-02 19:54 GMT+01:00 Albert \
Astals Cid <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" \
target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">El Diumenge, 1 \
de març de 2015, a les 22:53:57, Albert Astals Cid va escriure:<br> <div><div \
class="h5">> El Diumenge, 1 de març de 2015, a les 21:01:15, David Edmundson va \
escriure:<br> > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Albert Astals Cid <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > > El \
Dissabte, 28 de febrer de 2015, a les 00:40:45, David Edmundson va<br> > > \
><br> > > > escriure:<br>
> > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Albert Astals Cid <<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>><br> > > ><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > El Divendres, 27 de febrer de 2015, a les 11:04:57, Vishesh \
Handa va<br> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > escriure:<br>
> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Albert Astals Cid \
<<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>><br> > > > > \
><br> > > > > > wrote:<br>
> > > > > > > > What needs to be done to release the KF5 \
based version of<br> > > > > > > > > dolphin<br>
> > > > > > > > and<br>
> > > > > > > > dolphin-plugins:<br>
> > > > > > > > * remove dolphin from kde-baseapps<br>
> > > > > > > > * merge frameworks branch into master in \
dolphin and<br> > > ><br>
> > > dolphin-plugins<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > > > > > The requirements for dolphin:<br>
> > > > > > > > * Qt >= 5.4<br>
> > > > > > > > * KDE Frameworks >= 5.7<br>
> > > > > > > > * ECM >= 1.6<br>
> > > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > As I already mentioned in another mail, you also \
need<br> > > > > > > > baloo-widgets<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > that<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > > > is<br>
> > > > > > > undereleased. Who is going to review and release \
baloo-widgets<br> > > > > > > > for<br>
> > > > > > > KF5?<br>
> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > Does it really need to go through review? It has been \
shipped with<br> > > ><br>
> > > KDE4.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > > I don't know, you tell me, how much has the code \
changed?<br> > > > > ><br>
> > > > > > We can just make a release. The KF5 port has been ready \
for a long<br> > > ><br>
> > > time.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > > I<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > > just haven't pushed to make a release of it, since \
it's difficult<br> > > > > > > to<br>
> > > > > > know<br>
> > > > > > where to release it. I suggest we release it part of \
the<br> > > > > > > application<br>
> > > > > > release, if Emannuel is alright with that.<br>
> > > > > > Otherwise Dolphin can be released without Baloo.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Do you think our users would appreciate losing those \
features?<br> > > > > > What is our goal in here?<br>
> > > > > Release a KF5-based Dolphin for the sake of releasing a \
KF5-based<br> > > ><br>
> > > Dolphin?<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > > Or do we want to give our users the best posible user \
experince?<br> > > > ><br>
> > > > That's a somewhat loaded question.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > It is not a loaded question, it's an honest question, which by \
answering<br> > > > with<br>
> > > another question you're trying to not answer.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > OK, I'll answer very clearly.<br>
> ><br>
> > It's not being pushed "for the sake of it".<br>
> ><br>
> > I think the KF5 version gives the best possible user experience.<br>
> ><br>
> > > Which do we want to give our users? The one which is being \
actively<br> > > ><br>
> > > > supported or the one that isn't.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Is suddenly kdelibs4-Dolphin broken?<br>
> ><br>
> > A little bit.<br>
> ><br>
> > It uses the KPart from konsole. Konsole is frameworks based. Unless<br>
> > distros<br>
> > work around it it doesn't load.<br>
> ><br>
> > kdelibs4 KRatingPainter can't the breeze icons properly so \
everything<br> > > appears as 5 stars (it desaturates a grey icon). This is \
fixed in<br> > > frameworks.<br>
> ><br>
> > It currently shares the same database as Baloo 5; that is going to \
change<br> > > databases which means anything using the old libs will stop \
working.<br> ><br>
> Ok, i'm tired of being the bad guy, do whatever you have to do to make \
it<br> > the release happen and tell me all the extra repositories that need to \
be<br> > part of the release.<br>
<br>
</div></div>You have approximately 3 hours to make this happen, don't know what \
you're<br> waiting for to be honest.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Albert<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
><br>
> > David<br>
><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> release-team mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:release-team@kde.org">release-team@kde.org</a><br>
> <a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team</a><br> <br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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