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List:       kde-release-team
Subject:    Re: ALERT: KDElibs (at least) 4.8.4 is actually 4.8.80+
From:       "Wulf C. Krueger" <philantrop () exherbo ! org>
Date:       2012-06-10 18:49:51
Message-ID: 4FD4EC4F.5010605 () exherbo ! org
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On 10.06.2012 20:33, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Feel free to wait until the packages are released publicly. That
> way you'll have packages that work
[...]
> There is not a single untested tarball in any semipublic site.
> There are untested tarballs in a private site.

I think these two answers summarize nicely albeit with a very sad
outcome what QA means to KDE.

>> No, you don't. You just told me you expect *us* to do *your* QA,
>> your *testing* and, ideally, sort *your* stuff out (including,
>> according to some, informing individual project leads).
>> Disrespectful.
> *us* and *you* is *we*

And that's another issue: No! *You* are the KDE upstream. *We* are
downstream, the KDE packagers for the distributions.
Yes, we'll gladly help you out but we're not here to do *upstream's*
job. I assure you, we all have enough to do with our distro development.


Let's put this thread to rest, though. I think we can both safely
agree we have *completely* and seemingly irreconcilable points of view
about QA and upstream/downstream roles.

Since I seem to be the only packager seeing things the way I do (I
guess others would have chimed in otherwise), I'll go back to lurking
in here.

- -- 
Best regards, Wulf
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