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List:       kde-release-team
Subject:    Re: Why are 4.8.80 packages already out in the wild?
From:       Albert Astals Cid <aacid () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-06-03 18:40:42
Message-ID: 10976505.QWHo9pFzIU () xps
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El Diumenge, 3 de juny de 2012, a les 20:34:55, Andrea Scarpino va escriure:
> On Jun 3, 2012 8:08 PM, "Martin Gr=E4=DFlin" <mgraesslin@kde.org> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > =

> > this weekend KWin received bug reports against 4.8.80 from distro packa=
ges
> > ([1], [2]). This quite surprised me as beta should not be out before
> =

> Monday.
> =

> > Now I concider this as an issue if users can report bugs for a version =
we
> =

> do
> =

> > not yet expect. E.g. in KWin I had not yet created the version
> =

> information - I
> =

> > wanted to do this on Monday after the release. Because of that bug 3010=
68
> =

> had
> =

> > been reported incorrectly against 4.8.2 which quite confused me.
> > =

> > For Beta 1 this seems not so much an issue, but for Beta 2 such too ear=
ly
> > releases can waste quite some time. Consider we don't notice and
> =

> investigate
> =

> > why a bug fix did not work? And even if we notice we have to spend time
> =

> asking
> =

> > the user to verify which version was actually in use.
> > =

> > So I would like to know, what's the reason why distros ship the packages
> =

> too
> =

> > early and whether we find it acceptable that distros ship the packages =
too
> > early.
> =

> Well...In Arch I released the packages some hour before  Tom's thread abo=
ut
> calling off beta1. =


You mean me, not Tom.

> You guys decided to delay it only, so I kept the
> packages in the unstable repo to let our devs test them, but I didn't
> announce them.
> I guess the "Install KDE 4.9" wiki page on techbase did the rest.
> =

> Anyway, if you want to blame someone I guess you should blame users not u=
s.

Come on, you put your packages available before the official tar files are =

available in the ftp and you're saying you did nothing wrong?

Albert

> =

> Cheers
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