From kde-release-team Fri Feb 15 05:46:47 2008 From: Torsten Rahn Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:46:47 +0000 To: kde-release-team Subject: Re: Initial revision of KDE 4.1 schedule available on Techbase Message-Id: <200802150646.47722.torsten.rahn () credativ ! de> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-release-team&m=120305446315537 > On Wednesday 13 February 2008 14:43:05 Torsten Rahn wrote: > > I think that the points of times for freezes and their definitions as > > suggested by Matt are quite good actually. I just feel that people won't > > get into release mode this fast, so we need to have a "real" alpha > > release in March first (and basically call your Alpha1 a Beta 1, etc.). > My impression (and the one of other, I gathered that from past discussions) > is that two months to stabilise a 4.x release should really be enough. More > time in freeze is not a good thing. Well, if you read my last mail closely you'll realize that I didn't suggest to change anything about the freeze milestones that Matt has suggested. However my suggestion was to have another release in March to get people into release mode early and to give users a chance to test new stuff early to be able to provide feedback and to give developers time to adjust to the feedback. With the current schedule I don't see this chance. Looking back it has always taken considerable time to get people to realize that now it's time to stop work on new stuff and to start work on bugfixing and polishing things. An early alpha would provide this clue. While with the development of LiveCDs it's much easier for people to test and follow KDE's progress it still takes a release to get the public's attention and the awareness of testers that "this development state" is supposed to be where the software is about to head and that the testers better give feedback now if they feel that stuff is wrong instead of hesitating. Looking back at e.g. the KDE 2.1 schedule which worked really well I notice that the first Beta there happened exactly 2.5 months before the actual release (i.e. December 18th, Beta 2 was on January 31st and KDE 2.1 on February 26th. So far the KDE 2.1 has been the most fast tracked release in KDE's history and given that KDE has grown quite a bit I'd consider it a true challenge to release within such a short time frame again while still delivering a quality release. --  Torsten Rahn  Tel.: 0 21 61 - 46 43 - 192 credativ GmbH, HRB Mönchengladbach 12080 Hohenzollernstr. 133, 41061 Mönchengladbach Geschäftsführung: Dr. Michael Meskes, Jörg Folz _______________________________________________ release-team mailing list release-team@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/release-team