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List:       kde-release-team
Subject:    Re: Questions About the New Schedule
From:       Tom Albers <tomalbers () kde ! nl>
Date:       2007-09-09 10:36:25
Message-ID: 1294494.id3vtA1Mg7 () kde ! nl
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Op za 8 sep 2007 15:08 schreef u:
> 1) Is kdelibs/kate exempt from the kdelibs freeze on 3 Oct?
> [Ed: since the kate application may need to make fixes there]

I agree with Thomas, I don't see an important reason.
If there is a critical bug, we should allow it, see below.
 
> 2) Is kdebase/runtime/kstyles exempt from the kdelibs freeze on 3 Oct?
> [Ed: since boemann told me that oxygen still needs a couple months]

Does he know there hardly isn't a couple of months left? If the Oxygen-style can not \
make it for 4.0.0, maybe it should be delayed to 4.0.1 or 4.1.0. I mean there is such \
a hype around Oxygen, I rather wait for a next release and have it perfect, than \
including it now and it looks bad, that will make bad press.

Anyhow, I don't think the style would need to make bic/sic changes, only \
implementation changes, I think we can allow them a bit longer, but there should be a \
date where that ends. I would vote to have no exceptions anymore without a date where \
that exception ends.

> 3) Will SC+BC+UC* bugfixes still be allowed after the Total Freezes?
> (*UC = Usage Compatible, i.e. non-semantic-changing)
> [Ed: I think the real question is how "critical" do the bugs need to be?]

After review, yes.
Critical bugs are always allowed. We just need to define the word 'critical'. Analog \
to using the keyword svn_silent in commits, i would define it as 'critical in it's \
context'. So although a bug in a style is not release critical, it could be critical \
for that style. Maybe that's to free and that would require the module maintainer's \
approval.  
> 4) When is the string freeze?

We discussed this before, we could not reach a uniform descision iirc. But I feel a \
string freeze will force developers to rethink what they are doing. So if I had to \
decide it would be Oct 3rd.

> 5)  Should language bindings be part of the development platform?
> Richard Dale says "Python and Ruby in good shape by late October, and possibly
> C# too."

I would follow his plan as he wrote on k-c-d.

Toma



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