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Today's Topics:
1. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Rex Dieter)
2. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Gilboa Davara)
3. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Gilboa Davara)
4. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Gilboa Davara)
5. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Rex Dieter)
7. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Rex Dieter)
8. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Gilboa Davara)
9. Re: kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5 (Gilboa Davara)
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Do you have EPEL and/or any other 3rd-party repos enabled?
>
> looks like rpmforge has a different/incompatible exiv2 pkg. yay. I'll
> try contacting them to see if we can work out the incompatibilities.
Naw, double-checked, rpmforge's exiv2 is the same, just that they need
to respin it against the newer exiv2.
In short, it's a dep problem specific to rpmforge, no related to us here.
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:09 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 08:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >>> Coming soon to a friendly kde-redhat repo near you... kde-3.5.10 for
> >>> EL-4, EL-5. Will be landing in testing to simmer for a bit first. Enjoy.
> >>>
> >>> -- Rex
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> - Gilboa
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hello Rex,
> >
> > I'm getting some breakage on CentOS 5.2/x86_64:
> >
> > Missing Dependency: kdenetwork-libs = 7:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdenetwork-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.10-2.el5 is needed by package kdebase-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils = 6:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by package
> > kdeutils-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils-extras = 6:3.5.9-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdeutils-devel
>
> Other than libexiv2, the others are a mystery to me:
> $ repoquery --whatprovides \
> kdebase kdenetwork-libs kdeutils kdeutils-extras
> ...
> kdebase-6:3.5.10-2.el5.x86_64
> kdenetwork-7:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> kdeutils-6:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> kdeutils-extras-6:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> ...
>
> Is this possibly a multilib issue? Are there .i386 versions of any of
> these currently installed?
>
> -- Rex
First thing I checked:
$ rpm -qa kde\* | grep i386 | wc -l
0
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:21 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> >> Do you have EPEL and/or any other 3rd-party repos enabled?
> >
> > looks like rpmforge has a different/incompatible exiv2 pkg. yay. I'll
> > try contacting them to see if we can work out the incompatibilities.
>
> Naw, double-checked, rpmforge's exiv2 is the same, just that they need
> to respin it against the newer exiv2.
>
> In short, it's a dep problem specific to rpmforge, no related to us here.
>
> -- Rex
Figured as much.
Any idea why the rpmforge group doesn't support EPEL?
- Gilboa
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 08:53 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 08:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >>> Coming soon to a friendly kde-redhat repo near you... kde-3.5.10 for
> >>> EL-4, EL-5. Will be landing in testing to simmer for a bit first. Enjoy.
> >>>
> >>> -- Rex
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> - Gilboa
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hello Rex,
> >
> > I'm getting some breakage on CentOS 5.2/x86_64:
> >
> > Missing Dependency: kdenetwork-libs = 7:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdenetwork-extras
> > Missing Dependency: libexiv2.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package gwenview
> > Missing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.10-2.el5 is needed by package kdebase-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils = 6:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by package
> > kdeutils-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils-extras = 6:3.5.9-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdeutils-devel
>
> Do you have EPEL and/or any other 3rd-party repos enabled?
>
> rpm -q gwenview exiv2 exiv2-libs
> please
>
> -- Rex
EPEL enabled. (funny that you mention gwenview and exiv2... both
generate additional breakage - but I assume that it's rpmforge vs. EPEL
problem)
$ rpm -q gwenview exiv2 exiv2-libs
gwenview-1.4.2-2.el5.rf.x86_64
exiv2-0.15-5.el5.x86_64
exiv2-0.15-5.el5.i386
package exiv2-libs is not installed
- Gilboa
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Any idea why the rpmforge group doesn't support EPEL?
Imo, it's all egos.
There were some personality and policy conflicts early on when epel
tried to reach out to rpmforge devs, and since then, rpmforge (dag
mostly) has the perception (valid or not, I won't argue that here) that
epel isn't interested in working together.
So, here we are, 2 largely overlapping repos with hardly any
collaboration or cooperation. Disappointing really.
I try to help when/where I can, slowly but surely.
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.5.10 for el4/el5
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:09 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 08:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > > > Coming soon to a friendly kde-redhat repo near you... kde-3.5.10 for
> > > > > EL-4, EL-5. Will be landing in testing to simmer for a bit first. Enjoy.
> > > > >
> > > > > -- Rex
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > - Gilboa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Hello Rex,
> > >
> > > I'm getting some breakage on CentOS 5.2/x86_64:
> > >
> > > Missing Dependency: kdenetwork-libs = 7:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by
> > > package kdenetwork-extras
> > > Missing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.10-2.el5 is needed by package \
> > > kdebase-extras Missing Dependency: kdeutils = 6:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by \
> > > package kdeutils-extras
> > > Missing Dependency: kdeutils-extras = 6:3.5.9-1.el5 is needed by
> > > package kdeutils-devel
> > Other than libexiv2, the others are a mystery to me:
> > $ repoquery --whatprovides \
> > kdebase kdenetwork-libs kdeutils kdeutils-extras
> > ...
> > kdebase-6:3.5.10-2.el5.x86_64
> > kdenetwork-7:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> > kdeutils-6:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> > kdeutils-extras-6:3.5.10-1.el5.x86_64
> > ...
> >
> > Is this possibly a multilib issue? Are there .i386 versions of any of
> > these currently installed?
> >
> > -- Rex
>
> First thing I checked:
Bummer, I can't reproduce.
yum install here on my el5/x86_64 for all those pkgs mentioned above
works fine.
-- Rex
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Gilboa Davara wrote:
> EPEL enabled. (funny that you mention gwenview and exiv2... both
> generate additional breakage - but I assume that it's rpmforge vs. EPEL
> problem)
Bad assumption. :) it's entirely a broken dep within rpmforge. Both
rpmforge and epel provide exiv2-0.17
-- Rex
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 08:53 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Gilboa Davara <gilboad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 08:07 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >>> Coming soon to a friendly kde-redhat repo near you... kde-3.5.10 for
> >>> EL-4, EL-5. Will be landing in testing to simmer for a bit first. Enjoy.
> >>>
> >>> -- Rex
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> - Gilboa
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hello Rex,
> >
> > I'm getting some breakage on CentOS 5.2/x86_64:
> >
> > Missing Dependency: kdenetwork-libs = 7:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdenetwork-extras
> > Missing Dependency: libexiv2.so.0()(64bit) is needed by package gwenview
> > Missing Dependency: kdebase = 6:3.5.10-2.el5 is needed by package kdebase-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils = 6:3.5.10-1.el5 is needed by package
> > kdeutils-extras
> > Missing Dependency: kdeutils-extras = 6:3.5.9-1.el5 is needed by
> > package kdeutils-devel
>
> Do you have EPEL and/or any other 3rd-party repos enabled?
>
> rpm -q gwenview exiv2 exiv2-libs
> please
>
> -- Rex
EPEL enabled. (funny that you mention gwenview and exiv2... both
generate additional breakage - but I assume that it's rpmforge vs. EPEL
problem)
$ rpm -q gwenview exiv2 exiv2-libs
gwenview-1.4.2-2.el5.rf.x86_64
exiv2-0.15-5.el5.x86_64
exiv2-0.15-5.el5.i386
package exiv2-libs is not installed
- Gilboa
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On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 09:41 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Gilboa Davara wrote:
>
> > Any idea why the rpmforge group doesn't support EPEL?
>
> Imo, it's all egos.
>
> There were some personality and policy conflicts early on when epel
> tried to reach out to rpmforge devs, and since then, rpmforge (dag
> mostly) has the perception (valid or not, I won't argue that here) that
> epel isn't interested in working together.
>
> So, here we are, 2 largely overlapping repos with hardly any
> collaboration or cooperation. Disappointing really.
>
> I try to help when/where I can, slowly but surely.
>
> -- Rex
It's a shame, really - Dag used to be my favorite repo. (Long before
Fedora-extras came to life...)
Either way, any chance that rpmforge will fix/remove the offending exiv
package? (... And if they don't - can I somehow block this package, only
when it comes from rpmforge?)
- Gilboa
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