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Subject:    kde-redhat-users Digest, Vol 28, Issue 2
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Date:       2008-09-09 16:50:29
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Rex Dieter)
   2. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Colin J Thomson)
   3. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Rex Dieter)
   4. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Colin J Thomson)
   5. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Eli Wapniarski)
   6. Re: KDE 4.1.1? (Eli Wapniarski)
   7. Sitting on the Chesterfield biting my Nails (kwhiskerz)

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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> 
> 
> Sigh.... I understand... Time issues, but I miss kde-redhat.org.

It's less of a time issue, but I don't want to see folks using 
kde-redhat as a crutch instead of using fedora's official repos which 
has the same content.

I'll continue to use kde-redhat when/if it makes sense, but using it to 
preemptively host fedora content isn't one of those cases, imo.

-- Rex




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From: Colin J Thomson <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1?
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On Thursday 04 September 2008 20:27:44 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Sigh.... I understand... Time issues, but I miss kde-redhat.org.
>
> It's less of a time issue, but I don't want to see folks using
> kde-redhat as a crutch instead of using fedora's official repos which
> has the same content.
>
> I'll continue to use kde-redhat when/if it makes sense, but using it to
> preemptively host fedora content isn't one of those cases, imo.

Not sure if I missed a comment, but will kdepim4 now be from the Fedora repo's 
for F9.

Colin
-- 
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Registered Linux user number #342953




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Colin J Thomson wrote:

> Not sure if I missed a comment, but will kdepim4 now be from the Fedora repo's 
> for F9.

Repeat after me:
kdepim4 is F10+ only.
kdepim4 is F10+ only.
kdepim4 is F10+ only.

> )

That said, it will continue to be available in kde-redhat/unstable for F-9.

-- Rex



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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 4.1.1?
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On Thursday 04 September 2008 21:02:45 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > Not sure if I missed a comment, but will kdepim4 now be from the Fedora
> > repo's for F9.
>
> Repeat after me:
> kdepim4 is F10+ only.
> kdepim4 is F10+ only.
> kdepim4 is F10+ only.
>
> :)
>
> That said, it will continue to be available in kde-redhat/unstable for F-9.

Excellent :)

Colin
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Not using it as a crutch. kde-redhat lets me use and test the latest greatest 
kde when compiled against Everything and Updates without having to use fedora-
testing on production computers. And there does seem to be some important 
fixes in kde 4.1.1

Eli

> It's less of a time issue, but I don't want to see folks using
> kde-redhat as a crutch instead of using fedora's official repos which
> has the same content.
>
> I'll continue to use kde-redhat when/if it makes sense, but using it to
> preemptively host fedora content isn't one of those cases, imo.
>


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Besides, Fedora updates via yum or apt-get hasn't been updated since |"the 
breach"

Eli

On Friday, 5 בSeptember 2008 07:45:58 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Not using it as a crutch. kde-redhat lets me use and test the latest
> greatest kde when compiled against Everything and Updates without having to
> use fedora- testing on production computers. And there does seem to be some
> important fixes in kde 4.1.1
>
> Eli
>
> > It's less of a time issue, but I don't want to see folks using
> > kde-redhat as a crutch instead of using fedora's official repos which
> > has the same content.
> >
> > I'll continue to use kde-redhat when/if it makes sense, but using it to
> > preemptively host fedora content isn't one of those cases, imo.


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I couldn't wait and plucked all of the packages for kde-4.1.1 from Koji. All 
went great with the installation, except one hitch: there was no package for 
kdepim.

Now, I know that kdepim is not going to be in fedora 9, but isn't it supposed 
to be in kde-redhat for fedora 9? It isn't.

I had to force the installation (all of those 'jots' files from kdeutils-4.1.1 
conflicted with those from kdepim-4.1.0), but otherwise the system is running 
superbly.

Nevertheless, I am wondering, won't we get kdepim-4.1.1 (via kde-redhat)?


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