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Today's Topics:
1. heads up: kde-4.0.98 landing in F9/testing (Rex Dieter)
2. Sound Advice (kwhiskerz)
3. kde 4.1 - A Question - First Impression (Eli Wapniarski)
4. First Bug Report for 4.1 (Eli Wapniarski)
5. Re: kde 4.1 - A Question - First Impression (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: First Bug Report for 4.1 (Rex Dieter)
7. Plasmoids package missing? (Colin J Thomson)
8. Re: First Bug Report for 4.1 (Eli Wapniarski)
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] heads up: kde-4.0.98 landing in F9/testing
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fyi,
moving F-9 kde-4.0.98 builds from unstable to testing today.
Staying in unstable is koffice(2) and kdepim(4).
In the meantime, work is underway to prep for official F-9 kde-4.1 updates.
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Sound Advice
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I find the sound system to be a totally disconfiguring maze of confusion.
Under Audio Output, there is Notifications, Music, Video etc.
Under each, there are entries called Default, Pulse Audio, Pulse Audio Sound
Server, SB Standard PCM Playback, SB ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback (faded
out).
Hovering over Default, I learn that this option will try the default sound
output (which one is that?).
Hovering over Pulse Audio tells me that this uses the xine audio output
plugin.
Hovering over Pulse Audio Sound Server says it will use pulse.
Hovering over SB Standard PCM Playback says it uses either x-phonon (isn't
that xine audio output from above?) or else plughw (must be ALSA).
And the final SB ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback tells me it needs drivers or
is unplugged, yet when I run audacity, I am able to select it, but not in KDE
system settings, not that I necessarily want to.
Most often, pulse seems to crash (might be changed in kde 4.0.98 - too soon to
tell) and the sound system reverts to SB Standard PCM Playback, which I
presume is ALSA. The good thing is that there always is sound, but what is all
this stuff supposed to be? And why doesn't pulse ever work, or seem to crash so
often and revert to ALSA, which always works, and why the seeming duplication
of all these pulse entries that all seem to be the same thing that don't ever
work reliably?
Which order should I have these in? I have Default, Pulse Audio, Pulse Audio
Sound Server and finally SB Standard PCM Playback, in the hope that it will use
pulse, as it is supposed to the the great answer to all of the sound woes of
ALSA (that I never experienced, AFAICT), next phonon with the xine backend, I
guess, as this is supposed to be the great kde solution (didn't ALSA work
previously? it did for me).
So, what am I to make of this? Any informed elucidations?
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Hi Rex
First a question... What about all the kde extragear stuff. Will that get
incorporated?
I finally got my main Desktop rolled up to Fedora 9. And I have installed 4.1.
The jury is still out over all the changes. Some are very nice. Others..
well... Maybe I just need to get used to it.
I like the style very much. However, the substance... Well kde 4.1 is deemed
to be very new. However, I don't see it. I could best describe Plasma as Super
Karamba on steriods (Super Duper Karamba :) ). Which reminds me of Windows
Active Desktop introduced in Windows 98 with IE 4. Nice ideas, but.... Like I
said, maybe it will just take some getting used to.
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Hi Rex
Reported my first bug report
It seems that Konqueror has a hard time with ftp sites. It constantly gives me
an "Internal Error"
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166972
Eli
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde 4.1 - A Question - First Impression
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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Hi Rex
>
> First a question... What about all the kde extragear stuff. Will that
> get incorporated?
First you'll have to define exactly what you mean by "all the kde
extragear stuff". ?
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] First Bug Report for 4.1
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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Hi Rex
>
> Reported my first bug report
>
> It seems that Konqueror has a hard time with ftp sites. It constantly
> gives me an "Internal Error"
>
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166972
As I commented in the upstream report, I was unable to reproduce this
against a couple local anon ftp servers (ftp://apt.kde-redhat.org/, for
one).
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Plasmoids package missing?
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Hi Rex,
I just grabbed 4.0.99 (thanks!) and there seems to be a missing package. I
seem to remember reading that kdeplasmoids was renamed to kdeplasma-addons but
I can only find this in x86_64.
Cheers
Colin
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> As I commented in the upstream report, I was unable to reproduce this
> against a couple local anon ftp servers (ftp://apt.kde-redhat.org/, for
> one).
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> -- Rex
ftp://apt.kde-redhat.org too.
Eli
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