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Date: 2008-07-10 22:59:00
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: kde 4.1 Beta FC8 (Frank Schmitt)
2. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: delay in sound events. (Colin J Thomson)
4. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (kwhiskerz)
5. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (kwhiskerz)
7. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (Rex Dieter)
8. Re: depsolve conflicts in update from F9 -> unstable (kwhiskerz)
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From: Frank Schmitt <ich@frank-schmitt.net>
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:14:34 +0200
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde 4.1 Beta FC8
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Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> writes:
> See also
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/KDE/KDE4FAQ
>
> Aside: Any ideas on how to make that FAQ more visible or easier to
> find? Depsite it being around for quite awhile, I still find myself
> pointing it out a lot. Maybe there is no solution here, but I'm still
> hopeful.
Put a link in your signature...
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:17:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] depsolve conflicts in update from F9 ->
unstable
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Neal Becker wrote:
> Just for laughs, thought I'd try it:
>
> sudo yum --enablerepo=kde-unstable --enablerepo=kde-unstable update
> Loaded plugins: allowdowngrade, changelog, fastestmirror, merge-conf, refresh-
> : packagekit
Yes, all known problems:
1. kdegraphics-devel conflicts with kde3 equivalents (libkipi-devel,
libkexiv2-devel libkdcraw-devel)
2. anything depending on kde-4.0.x's libplasma = missing deps
3. anything depending on kdepim-3.5.x = missing deps
1. we'd hope to solve somehow, not sure how yet
2,3: stuff with missing deps, you'll simply need to drop/omit manually
before upgrading.
3 addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any
official F-9 kde-4.1 update, so it will not have these problems. I
chose to include kdepim4 in unstable here. An alternative worth
exploring is creating some sort of compat kdepim3 pkg, to minimize dep
breakage, but such a beast does not yet exist.
-- Rex
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From: Colin J Thomson <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 22:47:21 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] delay in sound events.
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On Tuesday 08 July 2008 01:05:37 kwhiskerz wrote:
> On July 7, 2008 11:26:49 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > > kde-settings-pulseaudio
> > > asla-plugins-pulseaudio
> > > xine-lib-pulseaudio
> > > gstreamer-plugins-pulse
> >
> > Thanks Rex, yes I did have all the Pulse files.
> >
> > Strange thing is since downloading 4.0.85 (thanks for the packages)
> > things seem a little better with the sound, I'll see how things go during
> > the evening.. or maybe I am imagining it again :)
>
> In 4.0.85, the sound problem persists: when changing windows, the sould is
> either delayed or gets chopped off.
Yes I can confirm this now..
FYI tonight I have been trying to get to the bottom of why Kwin was sucking
a lot of my CPU. Relevant system details:
Nvidia system using Livna's packages, Desktop effects enabled just recently.
I have found that disabling VSync in System Settings > Desktop > Advanced has
fixed this and there seems to be a slight improvement in the sound delays and
far less chopping off of the events. I guess over the next few days I'll be
sure if it has helped.
Related to heavy CPU usage maybe? perhaps this could help others.
Cheers
Colin
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On July 9, 2008 14:17:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
> addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any
> official F-9 kde-4.1 update
Shame. Everything seems to be working well, as far as I can tell.
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> addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any<br> > \
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:54:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] depsolve conflicts in update from F9
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kwhiskerz wrote:
> On July 9, 2008 14:17:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any
> > official F-9 kde-4.1 update
> Shame. Everything seems to be working well, as far as I can tell.
A little, but it's too big of a change in the middle of a release cycle.
kdepim3 -> kdepim4 upgrades need much more testing, and that doesn't
address the issue of introducing broken dependencies (like
kde-redhat/unstable status quo, where I don't mind doing that from time
to time).
-- Rex
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On July 9, 2008 18:54:20 Rex Dieter wrote:
> kwhiskerz wrote:
> > On July 9, 2008 14:17:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any
> > > official F-9 kde-4.1 update
> >
> > Shame. Everything seems to be working well, as far as I can tell.
>
> A little, but it's too big of a change in the middle of a release cycle.
> kdepim3 -> kdepim4 upgrades need much more testing, and that doesn't
> address the issue of introducing broken dependencies (like
> kde-redhat/unstable status quo, where I don't mind doing that from time
> to time).
>
So long as we won't be forced to go back to kdepim3. I have no reservations
about using kde-redhat, but I don't want to be forced to return to any kde3
apps.
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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On July 9, 2008 18:54:20 Rex Dieter wrote:<br> \
> kwhiskerz wrote:<br> > > On July 9, 2008 14:17:05 Rex Dieter wrote:<br>
> > > addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any<br>
> > > official F-9 kde-4.1 update<br>
> ><br>
> > Shame. Everything seems to be working well, as far as I can tell.<br>
><br>
> A little, but it's too big of a change in the middle of a release cycle.<br>
> kdepim3 -> kdepim4 upgrades need much more testing, and that doesn't<br>
> address the issue of introducing broken dependencies (like<br>
> kde-redhat/unstable status quo, where I don't mind doing that from time<br>
> to time).<br>
><br>
So long as we won't be forced to go back to kdepim3. I have no reservations about \
using kde-redhat, but I don't want to be forced to return to any kde3 \
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:45:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] depsolve conflicts in update from F9 ->
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kwhiskerz wrote:
> On July 9, 2008 18:54:20 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > kwhiskerz wrote:
> > > On July 9, 2008 14:17:05 Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > > addendum: almost certainly, kdepim-4.x will be omitted from any
> > > > official F-9 kde-4.1 update
> > >
> > > Shame. Everything seems to be working well, as far as I can tell.
> >
> > A little, but it's too big of a change in the middle of a release cycle.
> > kdepim3 -> kdepim4 upgrades need much more testing, and that doesn't
> > address the issue of introducing broken dependencies (like
> > kde-redhat/unstable status quo, where I don't mind doing that from time
> > to time).
> >
> So long as we won't be forced to go back to kdepim3. I have no
> reservations about using kde-redhat, but I don't want to be forced to
> return to any kde3 apps.
Hooked ya, did we? :) (I'm in that boat too)
I'll make sure to continue to provide kdepim4 (in at least the unstable
repo) for those F-9 users who wish to continue to use it.
-- Rex
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On July 10, 2008 10:45:41 Rex Dieter wrote:
> I'll make sure to continue to provide kdepim4 (in at least the unstable
> repo) for those F-9 users who wish to continue to use it.
>
Looking forward to it :-)
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