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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: delay in sound events. (Colin J Thomson)
   2. Re: delay in sound events. (kwhiskerz)
   3. Re: delay in sound events. (Rex Dieter)
   4. k3b on Centos 5 (John Pilkington)
   5. Re: k3b on Centos 5 (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: k3b on Centos 5 (Rex Dieter)
   7. kde 4.1 Beta FC8 (Eli Wapniarski)
   8. Re: delay in sound events. (Colin J Thomson)
   9. Re: delay in sound events. (Colin J Thomson)

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From: Colin J Thomson <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 00:30:48 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] delay in sound events.
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On Sunday 06 July 2008 22:51:50 Colin J Thomson wrote:

> Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I scroll
> through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or more. If I
> disable Pulse all seems fine.
>
> F9 - kde-4.0.84
>
> Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.

Well I think I have found the solution from the fedora list archives, I was 
part of that thread and totally missed this :-(

Create a new file called /etc/asound.conf with the following 
lines in it. 

pcm.pulse { 
      type pulse 
} 

ctl.pulse { 
      type pulse 
} 

I will test further but so far all seems well, I hope this may help others.

Colin
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On July 6, 2008 17:30:48 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> On Sunday 06 July 2008 22:51:50 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I
> > scroll through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or
> > more. If I disable Pulse all seems fine.
> >
> > F9 - kde-4.0.84
> >
> > Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.
>
> Well I think I have found the solution from the fedora list archives, I was
> part of that thread and totally missed this :-(
>
> Create a new file called /etc/asound.conf with the following
> lines in it.
>
> pcm.pulse {
>       type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
>       type pulse
> }
>
> I will test further but so far all seems well, I hope this may help others.
>
> Colin
Yes, I have noticed the delay, too. When using certain applications, like 
kplayer, perhaps others, but not sure if only kde3 apps, pulseaudio always 
crashes and phonon sound falls back to the driver for my sound card (not sure 
if this means it is using straight alsa, or something else). It should be 
noted that the delay only occurs when pulseaudio crashes and the fallback is 
used. When pulseaudio is running, there is no sound delay when switching 
windows.


Your pulseaudio solution is already contained in /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf, 
is it not?

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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On July 6, 2008 17:30:48 Colin J Thomson \
wrote:<br> &gt; On Sunday 06 July 2008 22:51:50 Colin J Thomson wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I<br>
&gt; &gt; scroll through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or<br>
&gt; &gt; more. If I disable Pulse all seems fine.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; F9 - kde-4.0.84<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Well I think I have found the solution from the fedora list archives, I was<br>
&gt; part of that thread and totally missed this :-(<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Create a new file called /etc/asound.conf with the following<br>
&gt; lines in it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; pcm.pulse {<br>
&gt;       type pulse<br>
&gt; }<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ctl.pulse {<br>
&gt;       type pulse<br>
&gt; }<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I will test further but so far all seems well, I hope this may help others.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Colin<br>
Yes, I have noticed the delay, too. When using certain applications, like kplayer, \
perhaps others, but not sure if only kde3 apps, pulseaudio always crashes and phonon \
sound falls back to the driver for my sound card (not sure if this means it is using \
straight alsa, or something else). It should be noted that the delay only occurs when \
pulseaudio crashes and the fallback is used. When pulseaudio is running, there is no \
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] delay in sound events.
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Colin J Thomson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I scroll
> through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or more. If I
> disable Pulse all seems fine.
> 
> F9 - kde-4.0.84
> 
> Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.

Shouldn't happen, but you should ensure you have all the related pulse bits
in place.

For example, do you have installed:
kde-settings-pulseaudio
asla-plugins-pulseaudio
xine-lib-pulseaudio
gstreamer-plugins-pulse

-- Rex






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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] k3b on Centos 5
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Hi Rex: k3b 1.0.4-7 from the el5 kde-redhat-testing repo often hangs for 
me immediately after burning a dvd when 'burn verify' is enabled - which 
is my main reason for using k3b.  This has been reported on non-RH 
related distros too. My other kde packages are fully updated from 
kde-redhat for el5.

The k3b site now has 1.0.5 which might fix this.  Any hope?

Thanks for the packages,

John Pilkington





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John Pilkington wrote:
> Hi Rex: k3b 1.0.4-7 from the el5 kde-redhat-testing repo often hangs for 
> me immediately after burning a dvd when 'burn verify' is enabled - which 
> is my main reason for using k3b.  This has been reported on non-RH 
> related distros too. My other kde packages are fully updated from 
> kde-redhat for el5.
> 
> The k3b site now has 1.0.5 which might fix this.  Any hope?

I can build it, sure.  I don't think 1.0.5 has fixes related to what you 
describe, but it's worth a try.

-- Rex




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Rex Dieter wrote:
> John Pilkington wrote:
>> Hi Rex: k3b 1.0.4-7 from the el5 kde-redhat-testing repo often hangs for 
>> me immediately after burning a dvd when 'burn verify' is enabled - which 
>> is my main reason for using k3b.  This has been reported on non-RH 
>> related distros too. My other kde packages are fully updated from 
>> kde-redhat for el5.
>>
>> The k3b site now has 1.0.5 which might fix this.  Any hope?
> 
> I can build it, sure.  I don't think 1.0.5 has fixes related to what you 
> describe, but it's worth a try.

OK, built for el4/el5, pushed to testing.

-- Rex




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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] kde 4.1 Beta FC8
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Hi Rex

Any word on the availability status of 4.1 Beta on FC8?

Eli

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On Monday 07 July 2008 03:53:23 kwhiskerz wrote:
> On July 6, 2008 17:30:48 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > On Sunday 06 July 2008 22:51:50 Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > > Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I
> > > scroll through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or
> > > more. If I disable Pulse all seems fine.
> > >
> > > F9 - kde-4.0.84
> > >
> > > Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.
> >
> > Well I think I have found the solution from the fedora list archives, I
> > was part of that thread and totally missed this :-(
> >
> > Create a new file called /etc/asound.conf with the following
> > lines in it.
> >
> > pcm.pulse {
> >     type pulse
> > }
> >
> > ctl.pulse {
> >     type pulse
> > }

> Yes, I have noticed the delay, too. When using certain applications, like
> kplayer, perhaps others, but not sure if only kde3 apps, pulseaudio always
> crashes and phonon sound falls back to the driver for my sound card (not
> sure if this means it is using straight alsa, or something else). It should
> be noted that the delay only occurs when pulseaudio crashes and the
> fallback is used. When pulseaudio is running, there is no sound delay when
> switching windows.

OK, thanks for the info, at least I am not the only one to notice this,

> Your pulseaudio solution is already contained in
> /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf, is it not?

Indeed you are right, after more tests the asound.conf I added did not seem to 
help.

Cheers

Colin
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Registered Linux user number #342953




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] delay in sound events.
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On Monday 07 July 2008 12:52:08 Rex Dieter wrote:
> Colin J Thomson wrote:

> > Does anyone notice the delay in the system sounds, for example if I
> > scroll through my desktops the sound event can take up to a second or
> > more. If I disable Pulse all seems fine.
> >
> > F9 - kde-4.0.84
> >
> > Is this a known problem before I go hunt around bugzilla.
>
> Shouldn't happen, but you should ensure you have all the related pulse bits
> in place.
>
> For example, do you have installed:
> kde-settings-pulseaudio
> asla-plugins-pulseaudio
> xine-lib-pulseaudio
> gstreamer-plugins-pulse

Thanks Rex, yes I did have all the Pulse files.

Strange thing is since downloading 4.0.85 (thanks for the packages) things 
seem a little better with the sound, I'll see how things go during the 
evening.. or maybe I am imagining it again :)

Cheers

Colin
-- 
Fedora 9 (Sulphur)
Registered Linux user number #342953



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