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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2 (George Galt)
   2. Re: Unsigned packages on fedora9? (lfwelty)
   3. Configure "Desktop-Menu" (Reuben Budiardja)
   4. Re: Configure "Desktop-Menu" (Rex Dieter)
   5. Re: CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2 (George Galt)
   6. Re: CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2 (Rex Dieter)
   7. Re: CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2 (George Galt)
   8. Re: CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2 (George Galt)

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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
> George Galt wrote:
>> I've hunted through the archives and various places on the web to see
>> if KDE 4.0.2 can be installed in a CentOS 5.1 i386 system, but so far
>> little luck.  I'm assuming that it is not yet available for CentOS in
>> RPM form.  The best I have found are some instructions on installing
>> it from source, but it required an upgrade of the kernel as there was
>> some concern that kdenetwork-4.0.1 would fail to compile on kernels
>> prior to 2.6.20 (CentOS 5 is on 2.6.18).  I'd rather not change
>> kernels (and if anyone has ideas on this, please let me know).
>>
>> Is there any plan for KDE 4 on CentOS through kde-redhat?  If you need
>> any help, can I provide some assistance (testing, building, etc.)?
>
> No immediate plans.
>
> CentOS5 is missing a *lot* of dependencies, but could be doable with
> good helping of time and effort.
>
> Maybe when kde-4.1 hits the streets, I'll personally revisit this and
> see how to make it happen.
>
> -- Rex
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Rex:

Thanks.  I've got a laptop with CentOS 5.1 on it that I can blow-up if
necessary.  I'll try the source/kernel route and see what happens.

George




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Unsigned packages on fedora9?
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> lfwelty wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I know the kde-redhat page says all kde-redhat RPMS have been
>>gpg signed but I'm getting lots of unsigned packages w/ apt.
>>I have imported the kde-redhat key:
>>  melete|ROOT-22# rpm -qa gpg-pubkey
>><cut>
>>E: Unsigned /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-libs-4.0.72-2.fc10.i386.rpm: sha1 md
> 
> 
> f10 != fedora9
> 
> You may be trying to use rawhide.
> 
> -- Rex

wow. good catch. I wondered why fc10 was showing up:

#rpm http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat fedora/9/i386 stable
rpm http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat all      stable

rookie mistake, bleh.

Thanks!

F.

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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Configure "Desktop-Menu"
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Hello,
This is more of KDE question rather than KDE-Redhat, but I hope someone can 
help. How do I configure the "Desktop-Menu" ? 
That is, if I right click on the deskop, I see a menu with its default entry 
(right now it's "Konsole, Create New ->, Run Command, etc"). I want to add to 
that menu. Is it possible ? how to do it ?
I searched the web and I only found people with the same questions but 
essentially no solution.

Thanks for any help.
RDB




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Reuben Budiardja wrote:
> Hello,
> This is more of KDE question rather than KDE-Redhat, but I hope someone can 
> help. How do I configure the "Desktop-Menu" ? 
> That is, if I right click on the deskop, I see a menu with its default entry 
> (right now it's "Konsole, Create New ->, Run Command, etc"). I want to add to 
> that menu. Is it possible ? how to do it ?

Not really possible (short of source code changes/patching).

-- Rex




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] CentOS 5.1 and KDE 4.0.2
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On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
> George Galt wrote:
>> I've hunted through the archives and various places on the web to see
>> if KDE 4.0.2 can be installed in a CentOS 5.1 i386 system, but so far
>> little luck.  I'm assuming that it is not yet available for CentOS in
>> RPM form.  The best I have found are some instructions on installing
>> it from source, but it required an upgrade of the kernel as there was
>> some concern that kdenetwork-4.0.1 would fail to compile on kernels
>> prior to 2.6.20 (CentOS 5 is on 2.6.18).  I'd rather not change
>> kernels (and if anyone has ideas on this, please let me know).
>>
>> Is there any plan for KDE 4 on CentOS through kde-redhat?  If you need
>> any help, can I provide some assistance (testing, building, etc.)?
>
> No immediate plans.
>
> CentOS5 is missing a *lot* of dependencies, but could be doable with
> good helping of time and effort.
>
> Maybe when kde-4.1 hits the streets, I'll personally revisit this and
> see how to make it happen.
>
> -- Rex
>
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Rex:

FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
stock CentOS 5.1 system.  I just got it put together yesterday, so I
haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)?  I'm happy to provide a list
of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
you might need.  Let me know.

George




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George Galt wrote:

> FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
> stock CentOS 5.1 system.  I just got it put together yesterday, so I
> haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
> What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
> mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)?  I'm happy to provide a list
> of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
> you might need.  Let me know.

Awesome. 

Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
as any gotchas you encountered.

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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
> George Galt wrote:
>
>> FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
>> stock CentOS 5.1 system.  I just got it put together yesterday, so I
>> haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
>> What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
>> mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)?  I'm happy to provide a list
>> of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
>> you might need.  Let me know.
>
> Awesome.
>
> Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
> as any gotchas you encountered.
>
> -- Rex
>
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Rex:

I'll get my notes together tonight and see if I can't post something.
It was reasonably straight forward, so this shouldn't be too
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George




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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 4:11 PM, George Galt <george.galt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote:
>> George Galt wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, I've succeeded in putting KDE 4.0.4 and Qt 4.4 on a reasonably
>>> stock CentOS 5.1 system.  I just got it put together yesterday, so I
>>> haven't played too much with it, but it seems stable and complete.
>>> What can I do to help you put together packages (if you change your
>>> mind and don't want to wait for KDE 4.1)?  I'm happy to provide a list
>>> of dependencies that had to be pulled in and compiled or anything else
>>> you might need.  Let me know.
>>
>> Awesome.
>>
>> Yes, starting with the list of dependencies would be a good start, as well
>> as any gotchas you encountered.
>>
>> -- Rex
>>
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>
> Rex:
>
> I'll get my notes together tonight and see if I can't post something.
> It was reasonably straight forward, so this shouldn't be too
> difficult.
>
> George
>

Rex:

I worked off of this page for the most part:
http://www.go2linux.org/forums/installing-kde-4-on-centos-t-7.html,
but I ignored the first poster's instruction as he had little success.
 Instead, I used the instructions provided by the second poster
("newuser" ).  I initially downloaded and compiled a new kernel, but I
didn't install it figuring I would try with the latest CentOS kernel
(2.6.18-53.1.21.el5 is what I'm running).  I set up a user and
environment to build kde as described here:
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4, in
particular, the .bashrc modification listed here:
http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc.
 I made a few of the changes suggested by "newuser" in the go2linux
forum post (above).

Next, I compiled and installed Qt4.4 from Trolltech per their
instructions.  Nothing unusual here.

I then installed the suggested rpms via yum: yum install
clucene-core-devel libxml-devel libxslt-devel \
dbus-devel boost-devel bzip2-devel openssl-devel alsa-lib-devel \
redland-devel rasqal-devel raptor-devel hspell-devel aspell-devel \
cups-devel xine-lib-devel avahi-devel gamin-devel OpenEXR-devel \
enchant-devel jasper-devel ilmbase-devel pcre-devel gpgme-devel \
libxklavier-devel glib-devel libusb-devel libsmbclient-devel \
libxcb-devel NetworkManager-devel lm_sensors-devel libraw1394-devel \
bluez-libs-devel gcc-c++ libXext-devel cmake subversion giflib-devel \
libpng-devel libXdamage-devel libXcomposite-devel libXrender-devel \
fontconfig-devel libXft-devel libXcursor-devel libXfixes-devel \
ruby-devel libXScrnSaver-devel libkdcraw-devel exiv2-devel \
lcms-devel libtiff-devel sqlite-devel libxkbfile-devel \
imlib2-devel patch gstreamer-plugins-base-devel

Next, I installed clucene from Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/clucene/ (FYI, the above yum command
included clucene, but it isn't available).
Then Strigi from Sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/strigi/
Finally qimageblitz from Sourceforge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qimageblitz/

Then, I downloaded kdelibs, kdepimlibs and kdebase from the 4.0.4
branches subversion server (FYI, strigi and qimageblitz also appear to
be available in kdesupport, which I did not build)
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdelibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdepimlibs
svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.0/kdebase

compiled and installed in user land (not as root).  It seems to work
well, though I'm missing several menu items (the most painful being
for System Settings, but I can simply run it from the command line,
I'll look into rebuilding the menus later).

I'll try reinstalling as root, though it doesn't seem to be necessary
at this stage.

So far, no real issues, though I haven't really pushed the system
much.  I'll play with it for a few days and let you know if anything
unusual comes up.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

George



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