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Date: 2007-03-08 20:16:59
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (Rex Dieter)
2. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (JP Renaud)
3. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (Rex Dieter)
4. Re: Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts with
kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3 (JP Renaud)
5. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init
3) (Rainer Traut)
6. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init
3) (Rex Dieter)
7. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init,
3) (Kyle)
8. Re: On logout from KDE I get a blank screen, no prompt (init,
3) (Rex Dieter)
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From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
with kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
Message: 1
JP Renaud wrote:
> Odd, it's an actual file conflict.
>
> Transaction Check Error: file /usr/lib64/kde3/kfile_mp3.so from install of
> kdemultimedia-extras-3.5.6-5.fc6 conflicts with file from package
> kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1.fc6
Try:
$ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
$ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras
-- Rex
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras conflicts
with kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
Message: 2
> Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> Try:
> $ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
> $ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras
it worked, thanks.
what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to resolve
by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I wonder what
goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that automagically?
(1) although i should really have done that myself before posting but I'd just
read a similar thread and Rex usually answers so quickly :-)
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:56:41 -0600
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Conflict: kdemultimedia-extras
conflicts with kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree < 6:3.5.6-3
Message: 3
JP Renaud wrote:
> > Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
> > From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> > Try:
> > $ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
> > $ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras
>
> it worked, thanks.
>
> what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to resolve
> by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I wonder what
> goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that automagically?
I recently moved a few things from -extras-nonfree -> -extras which was
the real source of conflict. The other monkey-wrench here was that
kde-redhat's local copy/fork of livna's kdemultmedia-extras-nonfree
erroneously had
Epoch: 6
whereas livna's packaging had no Epoch.
What that means is that The Epoch'd packages would *always* trump
non-Epoch'd ones, even if %version is higher, ie,
kde-redhat's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1 was being treated as
newer than livna's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-3
to try to mitigate this, I've removed kdemultimedia-extras-* rpms from
kde-redhat repo, but that doesn't help folks who already have it
installed (ie, you needed to manually uninstall it).
I'm currently working the livna's maintainer to try to find a better
solution that "just works" for everybody.
-- Rex
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> Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> JP Renaud wrote:
> >> Date: Thursday 08 Mar 2007
> >> From: Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>
> >> Try:
> >> $ rpm -e kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree
> >> $ yum install kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree kdemultimedia-extras
> >
> > it worked, thanks.
> >
> > what exactly creates these file conflicts? they are usually easy(1) to
> > resolve by uninstalling the conflicting RPM and reinstalling again but I
> > wonder what goes wrong in the first place... couldn't yum do that
> > automagically?
>
> I recently moved a few things from -extras-nonfree -> -extras which was
> the real source of conflict. The other monkey-wrench here was that
> kde-redhat's local copy/fork of livna's kdemultmedia-extras-nonfree
> erroneously had
> Epoch: 6
> whereas livna's packaging had no Epoch.
>
> What that means is that The Epoch'd packages would *always* trump
> non-Epoch'd ones, even if %version is higher, ie,
>
> kde-redhat's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-1 was being treated as
> newer than livna's kdemultimedia-extras-nonfree-3.5.6-3
>
> to try to mitigate this, I've removed kdemultimedia-extras-* rpms from
> kde-redhat repo, but that doesn't help folks who already have it
> installed (ie, you needed to manually uninstall it).
>
> I'm currently working the livna's maintainer to try to find a better
> solution that "just works" for everybody.
thanks for the explanation Rex.
--
JP Renaud
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:07:57 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
no prompt (init 3)
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Hi,
Davide Bolcioni schrieb:
> Also: are you using freetype with BCI enabled from Avi Alkalay's site ? I
> flipped back and forth with using it while experiencing that bug, but I was
> unable to decide whether it made any difference.
That's the same as my experience, did not see any difference in kde if
bci is enabled.
But with gnome it's really noticeable and better.
Why that?
Rainer
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 08:12:22 -0600
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
no prompt (init 3)
Message: 6
Rainer Traut wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Davide Bolcioni schrieb:
>> Also: are you using freetype with BCI enabled from Avi Alkalay's site ? I
>> flipped back and forth with using it while experiencing that bug, but I was
>> unable to decide whether it made any difference.
>
> That's the same as my experience, did not see any difference in kde if
> bci is enabled.
> But with gnome it's really noticeable and better.
I've had the opposite experience, when I've tried bci in the past
(admittedly > 1 year ago)... it made fonts noticeably *worse* (when
using anti-aliased fonts, anyway).
-- Rex
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:47:32 -0800
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
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hello,
I am running fedora core 6 with the radeon driver. My graphics card
is an ATI Radeon x700. Yes, runlevel 3. I've posted this bug here--->
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220755 . Very
little progress has been made in resolving it. Again, I am not sure if
its an X driver or kde problem.
Kyle
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] On logout from KDE I get a blank screen,
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Kyle wrote:
> hello,
>
> I am running fedora core 6 with the radeon driver. My graphics card
> is an ATI Radeon x700. Yes, runlevel 3. I've posted this bug here--->
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=220755 . Very
> little progress has been made in resolving it. Again, I am not sure if
> its an X driver or kde problem.
If you're asking, my opinion is that it is X's fault (obviously). (:
-- Rex
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