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Subject:    kde-redhat-users Digest, Vol 10, Issue 3
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Date:       2007-03-07 17:42:41
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Today's Topics:

   1. Please !!! The truth guys. (jim tate)
   2. Re: Please !!! The truth guys. (Rex Dieter)
   3. Re: Please !!! The truth guys. (Arthur Pemberton)
   4. Re: kde-3.80.3 in unstable (Claude Jones)
   5. Re: Please !!! The truth guys. (Erik Kj?r Pedersen)
   6. Re: Please !!! The truth guys. (Rex Dieter)
   7. Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: Please !!! The truth	guys.
      (Erik Kj?r Pedersen)
   8. Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: Please !!! The truth	guys. (Rex Dieter)
   9. Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re:	Please !!! The
      truth guys. (Erik Kj?r Pedersen)
  10. Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re:	Please !!! The
      truth guys. (Rex Dieter)

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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Please !!! The truth guys.
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I have been a rock solid KDE/RedHat/Fedora User since RH5.2,but I really 
feel That Redhat is trying to slowly push
KDE out the back door, and Gnome is in, with the F7 release.
Someone please get me straighten out on this.

Jim




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jim tate wrote:
> I have been a rock solid KDE/RedHat/Fedora User since RH5.2,but I really 
> feel That Redhat is trying to slowly push
> KDE out the back door, and Gnome is in, with the F7 release.
> Someone please get me straighten out on this.

No one will argue that Gnome has been (and will continue to be, in the 
near term anyway) Fedora's default desktop, but otherwise, those 
conclusions of "push KDE out the back door" couldn't be further from the 
truth:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureFedoraKDE
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/KDE
(and notice whose names are on each).

(:


-- Rex





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On 3/6/07, jim tate <mickeyboa@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have been a rock solid KDE/RedHat/Fedora User since RH5.2,but I really
> feel That Redhat is trying to slowly push
> KDE out the back door, and Gnome is in, with the F7 release.
> Someone please get me straighten out on this.
>
> Jim
>

Could you itemize your reasons for this thinking?

Currently, the only think I see that support is the lack of a kpup
(rendering yum-updatesd useless)
-- 
Fedora Core 6 and proud




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde-3.80.3 in unstable
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On Tue March 6 2007, Rex Dieter wrote:
> These are *new* packages, they don't update any exsiting package.  They
> are: kdelibs4, kdepimlibs4, kdebase4.
>
> FYI, kdebase4 was missing, I'm adding that now.

I had to leave shortly after I posted that - been out all day on location. Now 
I see these warnings - well, I don't mind being a beta tester. But, I'm 
unclear on what to do. Since there aren't updates, what do we do? We install 
the packages, then what? Will KDE4 appear as an option in my sessions at 
log-in time? Or what? If I just need to do some reading, point the way. I 
have a non-mission critical machine I can test on, so that's not an issue

-- 
Claude Jones
Brunswick, MD, USA




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> > I have been a rock solid KDE/RedHat/Fedora User since RH5.2,but I really
> > feel That Redhat is trying to slowly push
> > KDE out the back door, and Gnome is in, with the F7 release.
> > Someone please get me straighten out on this.
>
> No one will argue that Gnome has been (and will continue to be, in the
> near term anyway) Fedora's default desktop, but otherwise, those
> conclusions of "push KDE out the back door" couldn't be further from the
> truth:

I am more worried about kde becoming "redhat customized"  rather than the 
clean kde-version we have been getting from you. An example: My wife uses the 
Danish, German and US keyboards. In KDE they are symbolized by the flags, and 
very easy to see. The redhat version has the flags removed because of some 
problem between China and Taiwan (sigh), and replaced by symbols that are 
almost unreadable. It is very irritating.

Best regards 

Erik




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Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:

>> > I have been a rock solid KDE/RedHat/Fedora User since RH5.2,but I
>> > really feel That Redhat is trying to slowly push
>> > KDE out the back door, and Gnome is in, with the F7 release.
>> > Someone please get me straighten out on this.
>>
>> No one will argue that Gnome has been (and will continue to be, in the
>> near term anyway) Fedora's default desktop, but otherwise, those
>> conclusions of "push KDE out the back door" couldn't be further from the
>> truth:
> 
> I am more worried about kde becoming "redhat customized"  rather than the
> clean kde-version we have been getting from you. 

If it makes any difference, I will be directly involved in future iterations
of Fedora kde packaging, so I'll continue to do my best in maintaining the
same packaging standards as with kde-redhat.

> An example: My wife uses 
> the Danish, German and US keyboards. In KDE they are symbolized by the
> flags, and very easy to see. The redhat version has the flags removed
> because of some problem between China and Taiwan (sigh), and replaced by
> symbols that are almost unreadable. It is very irritating.

Agreed, but this particular item *may* be unavoidable:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#head-2ae52dbef2515e18d66fba220112c712c9d2eb14

-- Rex





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Onsdag 07. marts 2007 9:20   skrev Rex Dieter:
> and replaced by
>
> > symbols that are almost unreadable. It is very irritating.
>
> Agreed, but this particular item *may* be unavoidable:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages#head-2ae52dbef2515e18d66fba220112c7
>12c9d2eb14

Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I am sure 
it is done by somebody in North Carolina who only speaks one language :-)




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Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:

> Onsdag 07. marts 2007 9:20   skrev Rex Dieter:
>> and replaced by
>>
>> > symbols that are almost unreadable. It is very irritating.
>>
>> Agreed, but this particular item *may* be unavoidable:
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Languages
> 
> Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I am
> sure it is done by somebody in North Carolina who only speaks one language
> :-)

Then offer a better alternative... (:

-- Rex





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Onsdag 07. marts 2007 12:18   skrev Rex Dieter:
> > Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I am
> > sure it is done by somebody in North Carolina who only speaks one
> > language
> >
> > :-)
>
> Then offer a better alternative... (:

Maybe the flags could be at livna. They are a very good solution to tell you 
the truth




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Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:
> Onsdag 07. marts 2007 12:18   skrev Rex Dieter:
> > > Well but the flags do not have to be replaced by unreadable icons. I am
> > > sure it is done by somebody in North Carolina who only speaks one
> > > language
> > > 
> > > > -)
> > Then offer a better alternative... (:
> 
> Maybe the flags could be at livna. They are a very good solution to tell you 
> the truth

But not a "Fedora" solution. ):

-- Rex



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