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Today's Topics:
1. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Jesus Jr M Salvo)
2. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Derek Belrose)
3. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Rex Dieter)
4. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Tim Wunder)
5. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Colin J Thomson - G6AVK)
6. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Rex Dieter)
7. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Tim Wunder)
8. Re: KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin playlist error
(Colin J Thomson - G6AVK)
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 23:25:40 +1100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin
playlist error
Message: 1
Hi,
I should have mentioned that it should also play embedded videos
within konqueror.
I installed kplayer and then kaffeine.
When I had kaffeiner, konqueror would popup errors saying something
like "Unable to handle plugin ... blah...". So I uninstalled it, and
konqueror seems to be using kplayer, and konqueror is behaving a lot
better with embedded videos within a web page.
Have not tried it externally, but if player will within the browser,
then I am happy.
John
On 11/02/07, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday 11 February 2007 6:20:27 am Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> > Well, it seems that amarok is only for audio ... while noatun could
> > play audio AND video, so amark cannot be used as a replacement for
> > noatun,
>
> I would suggest you give Kaffeine a try, you can set this to dock in the panel
> as well.
> http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/
>
> Its available in extras.
>
> HTH
>
> Colin
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 18:20:07 -0500
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin
playlist error
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On Saturday 10 February 2007 5:59:48 pm Rex Dieter wrote:
> Derek Belrose wrote:
> > When I start up noatun 2.10.0 that was included in the fedora core 6
> > build of KDE 3.5.6, I get the error:
> >
> > "No plugin playlist was found. Please make sure that Noatun was install
> > correctly."
>
> ...
>
> > Any ideas? I'm trying KDE again back from a 2 year hiatus and would love
> > to be able to utilize this application.
>
> Seriously, noatun, uh, isn't all that great of an app.
>
> You'll be much happier using amarok.
>
> -- Rex
>
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Because mysql seems to be a requirement for amarok according to this:
Dependencies Resolved
=============================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
=============================================================================
Installing:
amarok i386 1.4.5-1.fc6 extras 18 M
Installing for dependencies:
fftw i386 3.1.2-3.fc6 extras 899 k
libifp i386 1.0.0.2-4.fc6 extras 50 k
libmtp i386 0.1.3-1.fc6 extras 60 k
libnjb i386 2.2.5-3.fc6 extras 71 k
libofa i386 0.9.3-8.fc6 extras 63 k
libtunepimp i386 0.5.3-1.fc6 kde 374 k
mysql i386 5.0.27-1.fc6 updates 3.3 M
perl-DBI i386 1.52-1.fc6 core 605 k
ruby i386 1.8.5.2-1.fc6 updates 279 k
and I don't think a music player should require a full rdbms...
Anyway I asked about noatun...I appreciate you telling me it's not that great
of an application, but it doesn't require MySQL.
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:24:59 -0600
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun
plugin playlist error
Message: 3
Derek Belrose wrote:
> Because mysql seems to be a requirement for amarok according to this:
> Dependencies Resolved
...
> and I don't think a music player should require a full rdbms...
Stictly speaking, amarok only requires/uses the mysql-client libs. IMO,
it's a fault in fedora's mysql packaging that the client bits also pull
in the full *server* portion too.
-- Rex
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On Saturday 10 February 2007 6:20:07 pm Derek Belrose wrote:
> On Saturday 10 February 2007 5:59:48 pm Rex Dieter wrote:
> > Derek Belrose wrote:
> > > When I start up noatun 2.10.0 that was included in the fedora core 6
> > > build of KDE 3.5.6, I get the error:
> > >
> > > "No plugin playlist was found. Please make sure that Noatun was
> > > install correctly."
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > Any ideas? I'm trying KDE again back from a 2 year hiatus and would
> > > love to be able to utilize this application.
> >
> > Seriously, noatun, uh, isn't all that great of an app.
> >
> > You'll be much happier using amarok.
> >
> > -- Rex
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?
> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job
> > easier. Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache
> > Geronimo
> > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642
> > _______________________________________________
> > kde-redhat-users mailing list
> > kde-redhat-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kde-redhat-users
>
> Because mysql seems to be a requirement for amarok according to this:
> Dependencies Resolved
>
> ===========================================================================
>== Package Arch Version Repository
> Size
> ===========================================================================
>== Installing:
> amarok i386 1.4.5-1.fc6 extras 18
> M Installing for dependencies:
> fftw i386 3.1.2-3.fc6 extras 899
> k libifp i386 1.0.0.2-4.fc6 extras 50
> k libmtp i386 0.1.3-1.fc6 extras 60
> k libnjb i386 2.2.5-3.fc6 extras 71
> k libofa i386 0.9.3-8.fc6 extras 63
> k libtunepimp i386 0.5.3-1.fc6 kde 374
> k mysql i386 5.0.27-1.fc6 updates 3.3
> M perl-DBI i386 1.52-1.fc6 core 605
> k ruby i386 1.8.5.2-1.fc6 updates 279
> k
>
> and I don't think a music player should require a full rdbms...
>
> Anyway I asked about noatun...I appreciate you telling me it's not that
> great of an application, but it doesn't require MySQL.
>
noatun is no longer maintained, AFAIK. As another poster suggested, I'd
recommend you use kaffeine as a replacement for noatun. Alternatively,
mplayer, with or without the kmplayer front end, will handle most multimedia
formats far better than noatun (or kaffeine) would.
Amarok is a full fledged music management app, designed to handle a collection
of music from multiple sources (web, hard drive, media players, etc.). It
uses sqlite by default, but can also connect to mysql (or posgresql, I
think), which I'd guess is where the mysql requirement comes from.
You may also want to look at juk, which is not as full-featured as amarok, and
should have far fewer requirements for installation.
A lot has changed in 2 years WRT multimedia in KDE. If you tell us
specifically what are you trying to use noatun for, perhaps we'll be able to
help you choose a better app.
Regards,
Tim
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Fedora Core release 6 (Zod), Linux 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
14:15:58 up 4 days, 20:04, 0 users, load average: 0.15, 0.10, 0.09
MP3/OGG archive Total playlength : 14 days, 21 hours, 52 mins 42 seconds
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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 17:55:08 +0000
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin
playlist error
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Hi,
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:25:40 pm Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> I should have mentioned that it should also play embedded videos
> within konqueror.
>
> I installed kplayer and then kaffeine.
>
> When I had kaffeiner, konqueror would popup errors saying something
> like "Unable to handle plugin ... blah...". So I uninstalled it, and
> konqueror seems to be using kplayer, and konqueror is behaving a lot
> better with embedded videos within a web page.
OK.. you needed the kaffeine-mozilla plugin, not sure if its available as an
RPM though.
Cheers,
Colin
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun
plugin playlist error
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Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:25:40 pm Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> > I should have mentioned that it should also play embedded videos
> > within konqueror.
> >
> > I installed kplayer and then kaffeine.
> >
> > When I had kaffeiner, konqueror would popup errors saying something
> > like "Unable to handle plugin ... blah...". So I uninstalled it, and
> > konqueror seems to be using kplayer, and konqueror is behaving a lot
> > better with embedded videos within a web page.
>
> OK.. you needed the kaffeine-mozilla plugin, not sure if its available as an
> RPM though.
It is from kde-redhat, haven't submitted to Extras yet.
-- Rex
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On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:55:08 pm Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:25:40 pm Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> > I should have mentioned that it should also play embedded videos
> > within konqueror.
> >
> > I installed kplayer and then kaffeine.
> >
> > When I had kaffeiner, konqueror would popup errors saying something
> > like "Unable to handle plugin ... blah...". So I uninstalled it, and
> > konqueror seems to be using kplayer, and konqueror is behaving a lot
> > better with embedded videos within a web page.
>
> OK.. you needed the kaffeine-mozilla plugin, not sure if its available as
> an RPM though.
>
>
mplayerplug-in works for me... although I don't tend to use kaffeine...
$ rpm -qi mplayerplug-in
Name : mplayerplug-in Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version : 3.35 Vendor: (none)
Release : 1.lvn6 Build Date: Thu 21 Dec 2006
04:29:17 PM EST
Install Date: Sat 03 Feb 2007 09:44:05 AM EST Build Host:
plague-builder.livna.org
What does kaffeine-mozilla do that mplayerplug-in doesn't?
Thanks,
Tim
--
Fedora Core release 6 (Zod), Linux 2.6.19-1.2895.fc6
14:15:58 up 4 days, 20:04, 0 users, load average: 0.15, 0.10, 0.09
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.5.6 Fedora Core 6 noatun plugin
playlist error
Message: 8
On Tuesday 13 February 2007 6:07:01 pm Tim Wunder wrote:
> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:55:08 pm Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> > On Tuesday 13 February 2007 12:25:40 pm Jesus Jr M Salvo wrote:
> > > I should have mentioned that it should also play embedded videos
> > > within konqueror.
> > >
> > > I installed kplayer and then kaffeine.
> > >
> > > When I had kaffeiner, konqueror would popup errors saying something
> > > like "Unable to handle plugin ... blah...". So I uninstalled it, and
> > > konqueror seems to be using kplayer, and konqueror is behaving a lot
> > > better with embedded videos within a web page.
> >
> > OK.. you needed the kaffeine-mozilla plugin, not sure if its available as
> > an RPM though.
>
> mplayerplug-in works for me... although I don't tend to use kaffeine...
> $ rpm -qi mplayerplug-in
> Name : mplayerplug-in Relocations: (not relocatable)
> Version : 3.35 Vendor: (none)
> Release : 1.lvn6 Build Date: Thu 21 Dec 2006
> 04:29:17 PM EST
> Install Date: Sat 03 Feb 2007 09:44:05 AM EST Build Host:
> plague-builder.livna.org
>
> What does kaffeine-mozilla do that mplayerplug-in doesn't?
I should of said that you need the kaffeine-mozilla plugin for Kaffeine and
embedded videos, the mplayerplug is for mplayer ;)
I prefer kaffeine, but have tried mplayer and that works well.
Cheers,
Colin
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