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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: kde3.5.5 > FC6 (Colin J Thomson - G6AVK)
   2. Re: kde3.5.5 > FC6 (Colin J Thomson - G6AVK)
   3. Re: Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions (Eli Wapniarski)
   4. Re: Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions (Eli Wapniarski)
   5. Re: Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions (Eli Wapniarski)
   7. apt metadata generation, drop it? (Rex Dieter)
   8. Re: kde3.5.5 > FC6 (Bob Cavey)
   9. Re: kde3.5.5 > FC6 (Rex Dieter)

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From: Colin J Thomson - G6AVK <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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	<200610262343.00906.colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
	<200610270625.28361.Bob.Cavey@gsfc.nasa.gov>
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:03:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde3.5.5 > FC6
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On Friday 27 October 2006 11:25, Robert Cavey wrote:
> On Thursday 26 October 2006 18:43, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 October 2006 21:50, José Matos wrote:
> > > On Thursday 26 October 2006 8:46 pm, Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote:
> > > > I would be very interested to know if anyone else is seeing this with
> > > > 3.5.5/FC6 fresh install or FC4 > FC6 ?
>
> I'm doing a few different upgrade runs as we speak from FC4 > FC6 ..... The
> first one I did a "yum remove kde* qt* Imagema*"  to get rid of all the
> kde-redhat related plus more for the upgrade.  Now I'm doing a full up
> upgrade with kde-redhat, freshrpms, rpmforge packages still installed. I'll
> post back the results but might not be 'til early next week if I get
> slammed today.

This will be interesting, not sure if i made it clear but my problems started 
with kde-red 3.5.4 > 3.5.5.
Out of interest I tested this again today with the same results, so I 
downgraded back to 3.5.4, and to fix the broken stuff in 3.5.4 after the 
downgrade I had to downgrade kdeartwork, which for some reason was left @ 
3.5.5

> I did not that there were about ~60 - 70 fc4 packages left on the machine
> after my first upgrade to FC6 ....  I'm going to try and clean all the fc4
> remains before doing all the users desktop systems.

Indeed, same on this box in that quite a few fc4 packages where left, I found 
Smarts GUI very handy for this :)

Cheers,

Colin
-- 
Fedora Core 6 (Zod)
Using KDE-Redhat
Registered Linux user number #342953




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From: Colin J Thomson - G6AVK <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:11:23 +0100
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde3.5.5 > FC6
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On Friday 27 October 2006 14:33, Bob Cavey wrote:
> > > > > 3.5.5/FC6 fresh install or FC4 > FC6 ?
> >
> > I'm doing a few different upgrade runs as we speak from FC4 > FC6 .....
> > The first one I did a "yum remove kde* qt* Imagema*" prior to get rid of
> > all the kde-redhat related packages plus more for the upgrade.  Now I'm
> > doing a full-up upgrade with kde-redhat, freshrpms, rpmforge repos still
> > active. I'll post back the results but might not be 'til early next week
> > if I get slammed today.
>
> Ok .... this time I did the full-up FC4 -> FC6 without any prior package
> removal. There are now 51 package with fc4 still on the system via "rpm -qa
> | grep fc4" ... "yum check-update" now shows 105 packages slated for
> updates.
>
> Going to to a yum -y update and let-er-rip..... will report back.

Well that will probably be OK. 
Will you be trying to update to kde-3.5.5 after that (assuming you don't have 
testing enabled)? this will be most interesting for me :)

Out of all this you may guess I am trying to avoid a "Fresh FC6 Install" could 
be my only hope though..

Cheers,

Colin
-- 
Fedora Core 6 (Zod)
Using KDE-Redhat
Registered Linux user number #342953




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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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	<454209BF.2060605@math.unl.edu>
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:39:44 +0200
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions
Message: 3

On Friday, 27 =D7=91October 2006 15:29, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Third, I've noticed that fc6 x86_64 is not as package complete as fc6
> > i386, or for that matter, fc5 x86_64. Can I assume that this will change
> > in the not to distant future?
>
> If you tell us what's missing, we'll happily (re)build things.
>
> -- Rex
>
The 2 missing that I'm most interested in are

gtk-qt-engine and bagira





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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions
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On Friday, 27 =D7=91October 2006 15:29, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Third, I've noticed that fc6 x86_64 is not as package complete as fc6
> > i386, or for that matter, fc5 x86_64. Can I assume that this will change
> > in the not to distant future?
>
> If you tell us what's missing, we'll happily (re)build things.
>
> -- Rex
>

Ooops, I made a type... I meant the upgrade from fc5 i386 to fc6 x86_64

Eli




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions
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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> On Friday, 27 בOctober 2006 15:29, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>>> Third, I've noticed that fc6 x86_64 is not as package complete as fc6
>>> i386, or for that matter, fc5 x86_64. Can I assume that this will change
>>> in the not to distant future?
>> If you tell us what's missing, we'll happily (re)build things.
>>
>> -- Rex
>>
> The 2 missing that I'm most interested in are
> 
> gtk-qt-engine and bagira

gtk-qt-engine is in Extras.  I should be able to rebuild baghira.

-- Rex




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Upgradeing from i386 to x86_64 questions
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On Friday, 27 =D7=91October 2006 17:57, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > On Friday, 27 =D7=91October 2006 15:29, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> >>> Third, I've noticed that fc6 x86_64 is not as package complete as fc6
> >>> i386, or for that matter, fc5 x86_64. Can I assume that this will
> >>> change in the not to distant future?
> >>
> >> If you tell us what's missing, we'll happily (re)build things.
> >>
> >> -- Rex
> >
> > The 2 missing that I'm most interested in are
> >
> > gtk-qt-engine and bagira
>
> gtk-qt-engine is in Extras.  I should be able to rebuild baghira.
>
> -- Rex
>

Cool... very cool

Eli




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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] apt metadata generation, drop it?
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Recent versions of apt (0.5.15lorg3 and newer?) can use repodata (the 
same that yum/smart use), so I'm considering dropping the use of 
genpkgdata to create apt-specific repo metadata.

So the question is, are there folks out there using older versions of 
apt (centos4?) and/or newer versions pointing to apt metadata?  If the 
latter, would you be willing to reconfigure apt to use (yum) repodata?

-- Rex




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde3.5.5 > FC6
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> > Going to to a yum -y update and let-er-rip..... will report back.
>
> Well that will probably be OK.
> Will you be trying to update to kde-3.5.5 after that (assuming you don't
> have testing enabled)? this will be most interesting for me :)
>

Ok ...  did a "yum -y update" ... I use rpmforge, freshrpms, kde-redhat(stable 
only) I have only used testing/unstable once a while back but went back to 
stable.   I believe it was 147 installed up from the initial 115 guess-timate 
total packages.  

Now I only have 16 fc4 packages left over that weren't updated.....


Menu items are missing, Panel-->Properties only has one of four selections on 
the left, something called xdir_config_dirs-hack.sh runs everytime I login.

So worse off now....

I still see some 3.5.4 packages is this right??
----------------------------------------------------
 [root@daacpctmp ~]# rpm -qa | egrep "kde|qt|Image"
dbus-qt-0.33-7.fc4
kdemultimedia-3.5.5-0.2.fc6
kdebindings-3.5.5-1.fc6
libmeanwhile0-0.4.2-0.2.fc4.kde
kde-filesystem-3.5-5
pinentry-qt-0.7.2-3.fc6
kdesdk-3.5.5-0.2.fc6
kde-config-3.5-6.fc6
kdewebdev-3.5.4-2.fc6   <----------------------------
qt-3.3.7-0.1.fc6
kdegraphics-3.5.4-2.fc6     <---------------------------
ImageMagick-6.2.8.0-3.fc6
ImageMagick-c++-6.2.8.0-3.fc6
lockdev-devel-1.0.1-10
qt-devel-3.3.7-0.1.fc6
kdepim-3.5.5-0.2.fc6
kdenetwork-3.5.5-1.fc6
kdebase-3.5.5-0.8.fc6
kde-config-kdebase-3.5-6.fc6
kdeutils-3.5.5-1.fc6
avahi-qt3-0.6.11-6.fc6
kdelibs-3.5.5-0.8.fc6
k3b-0.12.16-0.1.fc6.kde
kdeartwork-3.5.5-1.fc6
lockdev-1.0.1-10
kdebindings-dcopperl-3.5.5-1.fc6
kdeaddons-3.5.5-2.fc6



> Out of all this you may guess I am trying to avoid a "Fresh FC6 Install"
> could be my only hope though..
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin

-- 
Bob

What's playing now:
Edwin McCain - Jesters Dreamer and Theives




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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] kde3.5.5 > FC6
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Bob Cavey wrote:
> > > Going to to a yum -y update and let-er-rip..... will report back.
> > Well that will probably be OK.
> > Will you be trying to update to kde-3.5.5 after that (assuming you don't
> > have testing enabled)? this will be most interesting for me :)
> > 
> 
> Ok ...  did a "yum -y update" ... I use rpmforge, freshrpms, kde-redhat(stable 
> only) I have only used testing/unstable once a while back but went back to 
> stable.   I believe it was 147 installed up from the initial 115 guess-timate 
> total packages.  
> 
> Now I only have 16 fc4 packages left over that weren't updated.....
> 
> 
> Menu items are missing, Panel-->Properties only has one of four selections on 
> the left, something called xdir_config_dirs-hack.sh runs everytime I login.

Bummer, that xdg_config_dirs-hack was and attempt to fix the "missing 
menus on upgrade" problem.  The running every time problem is/should-be 
fixed updating to kde-config, see recent kde-config changelog:

* Fri Oct 24 2006 Rex Dieter <rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net> 3.5-8
- kwinrc: PluginLib=kwin_plastik (from kwin_bluecurve)

* Thu Oct 24 2006 Rex Dieter <rexdieter[AT]users.sf.net> 3.5-7
- fixup %%pre/%%post to properly handle kdmrc move
- fix to xdg_config_dirs-hack to prevent it from running *every* login

-- Rex



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