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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Rex Dieter)
   2. Re: Re: FC5: kaffeine & mplayer only in english
       with KDE-3.5.2 (Rex Dieter)
   3. Help files in kde (Erik =?iso-8859-1?q?Kj=E6r_Pedersen?=)
   4. Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Rex Dieter)
   5. kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Claude Jones)
   6. Re: kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Rex Dieter)
   7. Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Erik =?iso-8859-1?q?Kj=E6r_Pedersen?=)
   8. Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Rex Dieter)
   9. Re: Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Rex Dieter)
  10. Re: kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Rex Dieter)
  11. Re: kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Claude Jones)
  12. Re: kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Rex Dieter)
  13. Re: Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Erik =?utf-8?q?Kj=C3=A6r_Pedersen?=)
  14. Re: kdevelop and kdeaccessibility (Tim Wunder)
  15. Re: Re: empty %_docdir/HTML/en/common directory (Rex Dieter)

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Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:47:42 -0500
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Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:
> I am running fedora core 5 with your rpms for kde 3.5 
> The directory /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common is empty making the help pages 
> look a bit funny. I populated mine with the files from svn, making it look 
> right, but I am not sure where the mistake was made. It normally contains a 
> bunch of license files and png's

WORKSFORME.

I'll forward this on to kde-redhat-users to see if anyone else is seeing 
this.

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Juergen Wiezorek wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 25. April 2006 14:39 schrieb Rex Dieter:
> 
> > Juergen Wiezorek wrote:
> > 
> > > Any idea about the mplayer issue?
> > 
> > Sorry no, not a package I'm familiar with.
> > 
> > -- Rex
> > 
> 
> Where is the src.rpm for the mplayer-gui-1.0.0.39?
> I just wanted to check if the --language option is set correctly, but I cannot
> find the source in the FC5 repo.

rpm.livna.org I'd suspect.

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I am using fc5 with kde 3.5.2 and notice that /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common is
empty making all the kde documentation look strange. There also used to be
translated stuff in /usr/share/doc/HTML/xx/common/ which I guess should be
part of the i18n modules

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Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:
> onsdag 26. april 2006 07:47 skrev du:
> 
> > Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:
> > 
> > > I am running fedora core 5 with your rpms for kde 3.5
> > > The directory /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common is empty making the help
> > > pages look a bit funny. I populated mine with the files from svn, making
> > > it look right, but I am not sure where the mistake was made. It normally
> > > contains a bunch of license files and png's
> > 
> > WORKSFORME.
> > 
> > I'll forward this on to kde-redhat-users to see if anyone else is seeing
> > this.

> Weird, what rpm are the files in

Many/most of kde's rpms include at least *something* that gets dropped 
into /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common.

For example, try
rpm -l kdebase | grep HTML
and you'll see it list lots of stuff.

My fc5 box has lots of files in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en as well.

I *can* say that at one point, when testing the kde-i18n pkgs, I wasn't 
seeing anything get installed to /usr/share/doc/HTML/* either, but that 
mysteriously disappeared at some point (possibly coinciding when rhel4 
U3 hit the streets).

You sure your fc5 box is current (ie, has all available updates installed)?

-- Rex


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Both these packages are being listed as up-datable by Yumex with packages from
updates-released. Should this be so? Aren't both of these part of the
kde-redhat distro? I've got all 6 kde-redhat repos enabled. This is on my FC4
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Claude Jones wrote:

> Both these packages are being listed as up-datable by Yumex with packages from
> updates-released. Should this be so? Aren't both of these part of the
> kde-redhat distro? I've got all 6 kde-redhat repos enabled. This is on my FC4
> box.

I'll look into it.

-- Rex


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onsdag 26. april 2006 08:02 skrev du:
> Many/most of kde's rpms include at least *something* that gets dropped
> into /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common.

I just ran
for i in * ; do  rpm -qf $i; done
in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common
on the fc3 machines that are not empty, and everything was from kdelibs. Is
there a way I can reinstall kdelibs? I seem to rememebr something like yum
install --reinstall, but I tried that and it does not work

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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:

> onsdag 26. april 2006 08:02 skrev du:
>> Many/most of kde's rpms include at least *something* that gets dropped
>> into /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common.
>
> I just ran
> for i in * ; do  rpm -qf $i; done
> in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common
> on the fc3 machines that are not empty, and everything was from kdelibs. Is
> there a way I can reinstall kdelibs? I seem to rememebr something like yum
> install --reinstall, but I tried that and it does not work

apt has --reinstall, yum doesn't.

rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs
yum install kdelibs
should do the equivalent.

I'd also suggest trying to remove all kde-i18n pkgs (for now, until it is 
sorted out).

-- Rex
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:

> onsdag 26. april 2006 08:02 skrev du:
>> Many/most of kde's rpms include at least *something* that gets dropped
>> into /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common.
>
> I just ran
> for i in * ; do  rpm -qf $i; done
> in /usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common
> on the fc3 machines that are not empty, and everything was from kdelibs. Is
> there a way I can reinstall kdelibs? I seem to rememebr something like yum
> install --reinstall, but I tried that and it does not work

apt has --reinstall, yum doesn't.

rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs
yum install kdelibs
should do the equivalent.

I'd also suggest removing any/all kde-i18n, for now, until this is sorted 
out.

-- Rex
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Rex Dieter wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Claude Jones wrote:
> 
> > Both these packages are being listed as up-datable by Yumex with packages
> > from
> > updates-released. Should this be so? Aren't both of these part of the
> > kde-redhat distro? I've got all 6 kde-redhat repos enabled. This is on my
> > FC4 box.
> 
> I'll look into it.

Can't confirm.  WORKSFORME (as expected), though I'm just using
command-line yum, not yumex.

I'll keep looking a bit more...

-- Rex


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On Wed April 26 2006 8:51 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Can't confirm.  WORKSFORME (as expected), though I'm just using
> command-line yum, not yumex.
> 
> I'll keep looking a bit more...

OK - it's not a big deal. I'll be out of reach of this machine till late 
tonight, so I won't be able to do any followup till then, if that becomes 
necessary. This has been going on for about 3 days - normally, I wait awhile 
when such things arise, and they usually get straightened out;  this seemed 
like a decent interval. 
-- 
Claude Jones
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Claude Jones wrote:

> On Wed April 26 2006 8:51 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Can't confirm. =A0WORKSFORME (as expected), though I'm just using
>> command-line yum, not yumex.
>>
>> I'll keep looking a bit more...
>
> OK - it's not a big deal. I'll be out of reach of this machine till lat=
e
> tonight, so I won't be able to do any followup till then, if that becom=
es
> necessary. This has been going on for about 3 days - normally, I wait a=
while
> when such things arise, and they usually get straightened out;  this se=
emed
> like a decent interval.

Anybody else seeing this (particularly on fc4)?

-- Rex
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onsdag 26. april 2006 08:50 skrev Rex Dieter:
> rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs
> yum install kdelibs
> should do the equivalent.

Did 
rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs && yum install kdelibs
and now the files are there belonging to kdelibs all of them. 

There must have been some attempt of reorganising the i18n structure. There is 
now a /usr/share/doc/HTML/da/da/docs/common containing some stuff that 
probably was meant to be translated stuff but which is not. The way it used 
to be was that /usr/share/doc/HTML/da/common was a directory containing a 
mixture of files and links to ../../en/common. At any rate the legal stuff 
used to be a short translated introduction to the gpl etc, now it is not 
translated.

Erik


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On Wednesday 26 April 2006 9:06 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Claude Jones wrote:
> > On Wed April 26 2006 8:51 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >> Can't confirm.  WORKSFORME (as expected), though I'm just using
> >> command-line yum, not yumex.
> >>
> >> I'll keep looking a bit more...
> >
> > OK - it's not a big deal. I'll be out of reach of this machine till late
> > tonight, so I won't be able to do any followup till then, if that becomes
> > necessary. This has been going on for about 3 days - normally, I wait
> > awhile when such things arise, and they usually get straightened out; 
> > this seemed like a decent interval.
>
> Anybody else seeing this (particularly on fc4)?
>
> -- Rex

I use FC4 and it seems the versions of kdevelop and kdeaccessibility I have 
installed came from fedora/redhat, not kde-redhat:

$ rpm -q kdevelop kdeaccessibility
kdevelop-3.3.2-0.1.fc4
kdeaccessibility-3.5.2-0.1.fc4
$ rpm -qi kdevelop
Name        : kdevelop                     Relocations: (not relocatable)
Version     : 3.3.2                             Vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
Release     : 0.1.fc4                       Build Date: Wed 12 Apr 2006 
08:36:39 AM EDT
Install Date: Thu 20 Apr 2006 07:56:26 AM EDT      Build Host: 
hs20-bc1-5.build.redhat.com
Group       : Development/Tools             Source RPM: 
kdevelop-3.3.2-0.1.fc4.src.rpm
Size        : 35807903                         License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Tue 18 Apr 2006 10:50:32 AM EDT, Key ID 
b44269d04f2a6fd2
Packager    : Red Hat, Inc. <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla>
URL         : http://www.kdevelop.org/
Summary     : Integrated Development Environment for C++/C

$ rpm -qi kdeaccessibility
Name        : kdeaccessibility             Relocations: /usr
Version     : 3.5.2                             Vendor: Red Hat, Inc.
Release     : 0.1.fc4                       Build Date: Tue 11 Apr 2006 
06:48:51 PM EDT
Install Date: Thu 20 Apr 2006 07:55:31 AM EDT      Build Host: 
ls20-bc1-13.build.redhat.com
Group       : Amusements/Games              Source RPM: 
kdeaccessibility-3.5.2-0.1.fc4.src.rpm
Size        : 12770019                         License: GPL
Signature   : DSA/SHA1, Tue 18 Apr 2006 10:38:24 AM EDT, Key ID 
b44269d04f2a6fd2
Packager    : Red Hat, Inc. <http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla>
URL         : http://www.kde.org
Summary     : K Desktop Environment - Accessibility

Tim

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KDE: 3.5.2-1.4, xorg-x11-6.8.2-37.FC4.49.2
 09:10:02 up 7 days, 23:42,  2 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.10
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, Erik Kjær Pedersen wrote:

> onsdag 26. april 2006 08:50 skrev Rex Dieter:
>> rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs
>> yum install kdelibs
>> should do the equivalent.
>
> Did
> rpm -e --nodeps kdelibs && yum install kdelibs
> and now the files are there belonging to kdelibs all of them.
>
> There must have been some attempt of reorganising the i18n structure. There is
> now a /usr/share/doc/HTML/da/da/docs/common containing some stuff that
> probably was meant to be translated stuff but which is not. The way it used
> to be was that /usr/share/doc/HTML/da/common was a directory containing a
> mixture of files and links to ../../en/common. At any rate the legal stuff
> used to be a short translated introduction to the gpl etc, now it is not
> translated.

Did you uninstall the kde-i18n bits as suggested?  If not, you should. 
And, AFAIK, /usr/share/doc/HTML/da/common *should* be a symlink 
pointing to ../en/common

-- Rex
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