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Today's Topics:

   1. What are these files for? (Olaf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?=)
   2. Re: What are these files for? (Olaf =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?=)
   3. Re: locking down "Archive and Encrypt Folder" (jasper van der marel)
   4. Re: compiling KDE from src rpm results in different binaries from installed? (Jose' Matos)
   5. Re: compiling KDE from src rpm results in different
       binaries from installed? (Rex Dieter)
   6. Re: compiling KDE from src rpm results in different binaries from installed? (Jose' Matos)
   7. packaging request (Thomas Chiverton)
   8. Re: packaging request (Rex Dieter)
   9. Re: RFP: klearlook, kdiff3 (Thomas Moschny)
  10. Re: compiling KDE from src rpm results in different binaries from installed? (me me)

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Hello,

Today I have found a lot of big files named konquerorrc*.new under
~/.kde/share/config/ with a file size between 8 and 17MB. Does anybody
knows what these files are for?
Or is there maybe something wrong with my kde installation
(kdebase-3.5.0-1.2.fc4.kde)?


regards
Olaf



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Olaf Müller wrote:

Hello,

> Today I have found a lot of big files named konquerorrc*.new under
> ~/.kde/share/config/ with a file size between 8 and 17MB. Does
> anybody knows what these files are for?
Here are some more information.
My current konquerorrc file has a size of 17MB. After deleting the
entries of "Patterns=" under [History], the file has a size of 8,0K.

So could this 16MB big entry under  "Patterns=" caused by a normal
"Find File..." action (konqueror menu "Tools"), in a directory with a
lot of files?

Is there a way to keep this "Patterns=" line small?


thanks
Olaf



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Rex,

Your suggestion worked. By changing the permissions to r/w for root (600)
this option is not longer visible for the normal users.

Many thanks,

Jasper van der Marel

2006/1/16, Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu>:
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> jasper van der marel wrote:
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> > What I mean is hiding this menu option from the menu so users cannot
> > access this feature.
> > Something like action/encrypt=false in kdeglobals. Sadly enough I cannot
> > find the right
> > dcop call to do this.
>
>
> The item in question is controlled via:
> /usr/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/encryptfolder.desktop
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> You could try changing it's permissions or delete it.
>
> -- Rex
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On Tuesday 17 January 2006 01:18, me me wrote:
> Ok, so my question is: why does the binary installation install a version
> of kmailcvt that has a size of 237908 and rebuilding from supposedly the
> same source give a version with a filesize for kmailcvt as 166988 ? 
> Even with timestamp differences, etc, this is a huge disparity.  What do I
> need to do to get the same binary image, more or less? I know I am missing
> the 'dist' and 'kde' macros, but is this all?

  What is happens if you use mock to build it?

  Such as it is the rpmrebuild is using your machine environment. That is not 
the same as the environment used to build the original rpm.

  If you convert the recently build rpm and convert it to cpio and then 
install it somewhere, is the there any difference when doing an ldd on both 
programs?

  I'm sorry this are just conjectures and I can be wrong. :-)
-- 
José Abílio


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Jose' Matos wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 January 2006 01:18, me me wrote:
> 
> > Ok, so my question is: why does the binary installation install a version
> > of kmailcvt that has a size of 237908 and rebuilding from supposedly the
> > same source give a version with a filesize for kmailcvt as 166988 ?
> > Even with timestamp differences, etc, this is a huge disparity.  What do I
> > need to do to get the same binary image, more or less? I know I am missing
> > the 'dist' and 'kde' macros, but is this all?
> 
> 
> What is happens if you use mock to build it?
> 
> Such as it is the rpmrebuild is using your machine environment. That is not
> the same as the environment used to build the original rpm.

I'd *really* hope that they'd come out closer to the same, since we've
used mock to build all recent packages.

-- Rex


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On Tuesday 17 January 2006 15:13, Rex Dieter wrote:
> I'd *really* hope that they'd come out closer to the same, since we've
> used mock to build all recent packages.
> 
> -- Rex

  I know. I am sorry if I wasn't clear.

  I propose to compare the results with and without mock.

-- 
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Any chance of getting the very nice lipstick theme (from kdelook) and/or
kdeextragear-addons (which contains the Kopete->Skype bridge) packaged into
kde-redhat ?
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Thomas Chiverton wrote:
> Any chance of getting the very nice lipstick theme (from kdelook)

AFAIK, "lipstik" is already included.  (-:

> kdeextragear-addons (which contains the Kopete->Skype bridge) packaged into
> kde-redhat ?

I suppose this is one of those, "the software has no official release
and/or tarball and exists only in cvs/subversion" kind of things?

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On Thursday 22 December 2005 18:52, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Thomas Moschny wrote:
> > would it be possible to package
> >
> > - klearlook, a (well, somewhat) clearlook-like style,
> >   see http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31717
> > - kdiff3, a tool for comparing and merging 2 or 3 files with lots of
> > features, see http://kdiff3.sourceforge.net/ ?
>
> Sure, but it'll probably have to wait until after the holidays.

I'd like to reiterate my question now ... :)
Klearlook's homepage is http://www.devsoft.com/~jck/, btw.

- Thomas

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On Tuesday 17 January 2006 15:38, Jose' Matos wrote:
 >   What is happens if you use mock to build it?
 
 I don't know.  I don't have the time  and don't really have the patience to try to \
install such an environment and get it working.  
 If this doesn't work the same way, and I am using vanilla methods, then mock is the \
problem.  
 >
 >   Such as it is the rpmrebuild is using your machine environment. That is
 > not the same as the environment used to build the original rpm.
 
 Why isn't it the same? What really is the difference besides a level of shell \
execution??  I _am_ building as a regular user instead of root but that should make \
no difference at all; I have not changed anything about the vanilla build environment \
that would explain this.  
 >
 >   If you convert the recently build rpm and convert it to cpio and then
 > install it somewhere, is the there any difference when doing an ldd on both
 > programs?
 
 [~]$ ldd /usr/bin/kmailcvt >~/installed-kmailcvt-ldd
 [~]$ mkdir kmailcvt-temp ; cd kmailcvt-temp
 [kmailcvt-temp]$  rpm2cpio ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/i386/kdepim-3.5.0-1.6.i386.rpm | cpio -id
 99007 blocks
 [kmailcvt-temp]$ ldd usr/bin/kmailcvt >~/local-kmailcvt-ld
 [kmailcvt-temp]$ diff ~/local-kmailcvt-ldd ~/installed-kmailcvt-ldd
 1c1
 <       linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x00612000)
 ---
 >       linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0x003c8000)
 
 Does this make any sense to anybody?
 
 On Tuesday 17 January 2006 05:05, Rex Dieter wrote:
 > Assuming you haven't changed the default rpm build environment and/or
 > rpm_opt_flags, I'm at a loss to explain the significant difference.  I,
 > too, would have expected the builds to be essentially identical.
 >
 I have not changed anything that would begin to explain this, IMHO.  I am building \
as a regular user, but that is it.  
 [~]$ cat ~/.rpmmacros
 %_topdir        %(echo $HOME)/rpmbuild
 #%debug_package %{nil}
 
 I also looked over the way you invoke mock and what that does and don't see any \
differences.  By the way, the result I got is the same result as building from the \
kdepim 3.5.0 tarball from kde.org with the relevant patches installed.  
 Is there any possibility that the binary you are distributing is not synced with the \
same source?  
 Can anybody else check this and see if they get the same results?
 

		
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<div id="RTEContent">On Tuesday 17 January 2006 15:38, Jose' Matos wrote:<br> \
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; What is happens if you use mock to build it?<br> <br> I don't \
know.&nbsp; I don't have the time&nbsp; and don't really have the patience to try to \
install such an environment and get it working.<br> <br> If this doesn't work the \
same way, and I am using vanilla methods, then mock is the problem.<br> <br> &gt;<br> \
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Such as it is the rpmrebuild is using your machine environment. That \
is<br> &gt; not the same as the environment used to build the original rpm.<br> <br> \
Why isn't it the same? What really is the difference besides a level of shell \
execution??&nbsp; I _am_ building as a regular user instead of root but that should \
make no difference at all; I have not changed anything about the vanilla build \
environment that would explain this.<br> <br> &gt;<br> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you \
convert the recently build rpm and convert it to cpio and then<br> &gt; install it \
somewh  ere, is
 the there any difference when doing an ldd on both<br> &gt; programs?<br> <br> [~]$ \
ldd /usr/bin/kmailcvt &gt;~/installed-kmailcvt-ldd<br> [~]$ mkdir kmailcvt-temp ; cd \
kmailcvt-temp<br> [kmailcvt-temp]$&nbsp; rpm2cpio \
~/rpmbuild/RPMS/i386/kdepim-3.5.0-1.6.i386.rpm | cpio -id<br> 99007 blocks<br> \
[kmailcvt-temp]$ ldd usr/bin/kmailcvt &gt;~/local-kmailcvt-ld<br> [kmailcvt-temp]$ \
diff ~/local-kmailcvt-ldd ~/installed-kmailcvt-ldd<br> 1c1<br> \
&lt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; linux-gate.so.1 =&gt;&nbsp; (0x00612000)<br> \
---<br> &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; linux-gate.so.1 =&gt;&nbsp; \
(0x003c8000)<br> <br> Does this make any sense to anybody?<br> <br> On Tuesday 17 \
January 2006 05:05, Rex Dieter wrote:<br> &gt; Assuming you haven't changed the \
default rpm build environment and/or<br> &gt; rpm_opt_flags, I'm at a loss to explain \
the significant difference.&nbsp; I,<br> &gt; too, would have expected the builds to \
be essentially identical.<br> &gt;<br> I have not  changed
 anything that would begin to explain this, IMHO.&nbsp; I am building as a regular \
user, but that is it.<br> <br> [~]$ cat ~/.rpmmacros<br> \
%_topdir&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; %(echo $HOME)/rpmbuild<br> \
#%debug_package %{nil}<br> <br> I also looked over the way you invoke mock and what \
that does and don't see any differences.&nbsp; By the way, the result I got is the \
same result as building from the kdepim 3.5.0 tarball from kde.org with the relevant \
patches installed.<br> <br> Is there any possibility that the binary you are \
distributing is not synced with the same source?<br> <br> Can anybody else check this \
and see if they get the same results?<br> </div><p>  <hr size=1>Yahoo! Photos – \
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