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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Package Manager Confusion (Eli Wapniarski)
2. Re: Package Manager Confusion (Eli Wapniarski)
3. Re: Kmix Problem (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Fettouhi?=)
4. Re: Re: Kmix Problem (Colin J Thomson)
5. Recent package updates (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: Package Manager Confusion (Colin J Thomson)
7. Re: Package Manager Confusion (Colin J Thomson)
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Package Manager Confusion
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 09:56:31 +0300
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Thanks Collin
Your I already considered locking packages. But, because there is no documentation I \
did not want to do it. What happens when kde-redhat updates a locked package. Will I \
even be aware of it. But then I took your advice.
Now, the question I have is if the package in kde-redhat stable gets updated in \
kde-redhat testing, will I be made aware of that fact and unlock the package and \
enable the update?
Which brings me to another issue. How do I appropriately prioritize repos. I tried \
doing it with the gui, but it would seem that smart ignored my prioritzation scheme. \
Basically leaving Fedora's os, updates, extras at 0, livna, freshrpms, rpmforge at \
1and kde-redhat at 2.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Eli
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style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Sans"> <p>Thanks Collin</p>
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<p>Your I already considered locking packages. But, because there is no documentation \
I did not want to do it. What happens when kde-redhat updates a locked package. Will \
I even be aware of it. But then I took your advice.</p> <p></p>
<p>Now, the question I have is if the package in kde-redhat stable gets updated in \
kde-redhat testing, will I be made aware of that fact and unlock the package and \
enable the update?</p> <p></p>
<p>Which brings me to another issue. How do I appropriately prioritize repos. I tried \
doing it with the gui, but it would seem that smart ignored my prioritzation scheme. \
Basically leaving Fedora's os, updates, extras at 0, livna, freshrpms, rpmforge at \
1and kde-redhat at 2.</p> <p></p>
<p>Any insight would be appreciated.</p>
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Package Manager Confusion
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 10:09:17 +0300
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On Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:56, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Now, the question I have is if the package in kde-redhat stable gets
> updated in kde-redhat testing, will I be made aware of that fact and unlock
> the package and enable the update?
Just answered my own question. Locked the files kde-* packages that I
mentioned in an earlier message. Then ran smart update, smart upgrade and
then there they were again. So... it would seem that this did not help.
What's going on. Things used to be so simple and straight forward. Now it
would seem that I have to rely on too many repositories each with their own
naming conventions. Or one update from one repo superseeding the other. Even,
when one repo genuinely depends on another (ie kde-redhat relies on livna and
Fedora extras. Fedora extras and Livna conflict. With mjpegtools and
transcode. kde-redhat and fedora conflict with kdenetwork, kdeaddons and
qscintilla and digikam. Ahhhh -- screeming into the dark night of dependancy
hell).
Eli
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What do you mean with sending it to sys tray? I have the option on "dock
into panel".
Kind Regards
André Fettouhi
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From: Colin J Thomson <colin@g6avk.demon.co.uk>
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On Tuesday 04 Oct 2005 20:35, André Fettouhi wrote:
> What do you mean with sending it to sys tray? I have the option on "dock
> into panel".
Yep thats what I mean't, select "dock into panel" in the Settings.
Then Double clicking the Panel icon sends it to the Panel and this *should*
remain that way next time you login..
Colin
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Recent package updates
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Wojciech Jarosz wrote:
> Any chance of updating lipstik to version 1.3? The one at kde-redhat-stable is
> at version 1.1.
> link: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content223
done.
recent updates include:
lipstick-1.3 -> testing
baghira-0.7 -> testing
koffice-1.4.2 -> testing (sssshh, not "officially" released yet) (-:
openoffice.org-1.1.5 -> testing
digikam-0.8.0-beta2 -> unstable
digikamimageplugins-0.8.0-beta2 -> unstable
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Hi Eli,
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2005 08:09, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> On Tuesday, 4 October 2005 09:56, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > Now, the question I have is if the package in kde-redhat stable gets
> > updated in kde-redhat testing, will I be made aware of that fact and
> > unlock the package and enable the update?
>
> Just answered my own question. Locked the files kde-* packages that I
> mentioned in an earlier message. Then ran smart update, smart upgrade and
> then there they were again. So... it would seem that this did not help.
Hmm, I will run some tests in the next few days.. as some updates are
available..
Are you working with the GUI or CLI?
If your running in the GUI and "locked" the files that way (right click) and
lock, that works ok here so far :)
You can choose "hide old" and the locked files should vanish from the screen,
problem being the GUI does not save its View settings so the next time you
run the GUI, the files are locked but show in the list.
> What's going on. Things used to be so simple and straight forward. Now it
> would seem that I have to rely on too many repositories each with their own
> naming conventions. Or one update from one repo superseeding the other.
> Even, when one repo genuinely depends on another (ie kde-redhat relies on
> livna and Fedora extras. Fedora extras and Livna conflict. With mjpegtools
> and transcode. kde-redhat and fedora conflict with kdenetwork, kdeaddons
> and qscintilla and digikam. Ahhhh -- screeming into the dark night of
> dependancy hell).
It is a bit frustrating, I/we need to delve into this a bit deeper but I
know setting the channel priority does help,
Ok. with some experimenting I just changed Fedora Updates to priority of 10
and smart wanted to remove/downgrade a whole bunch of packages so it
works ;-)
Ah just read this in the FAQ's "Several channels provide an identically-named
package. Which of the packages does Smart use? Can I change that?"
http://labix.org/smart/faq#head-29874f24b6a1720240779c7a129d9ef37cbf9c34
I will scan the list archives, perhaps you should join the Smart list, its
very low traffic..
Cheers,
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Hi Eli,
On Tuesday 04 Oct 2005 07:56, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Now, the question I have is if the package in kde-redhat stable gets
> updated in kde-redhat testing, will I be made aware of that fact and unlock
> the package and enable the update?
Good question :) and I am not sure of the answer yet,
I know in the GUI when package has been updated a Yellow star appears next to
it, but as to whether this happens to a locked file I don't know. If/when an
update appears in testing I will try this (its easy to change the settings on
the fly) I missed the opportunity tonight as I had already updated..
> Which brings me to another issue. How do I appropriately prioritize repos.
> I tried doing it with the gui, but it would seem that smart ignored my
> prioritzation scheme. Basically leaving Fedora's os, updates, extras at 0,
> livna, freshrpms, rpmforge at 1and kde-redhat at 2.
I covered this briefly in the last post but I have run out of time tonight to
test further :(
I did find it better in the GUI to change the priorities from the Edit >
Channels, select a repo and and change the priority that way.
Cheers,
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