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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: Amarok Hanging (Allen Winter)
2. A Couple of Problems (Eli Wapniarski)
3. Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Eli Wapniarski)
4. Kicker Crashes (Eli Wapniarski)
5. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Eli Wapniarski)
6. Re: Kicker Crashes (Tim Wunder)
7. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Colin J Thomson)
8. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Claude Jones)
9. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Jeff Pitman)
10. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Claude Jones)
11. Re: Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum (Rex Dieter)
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From: Allen Winter <awinterz@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Re: Amarok Hanging
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 04:19:57 -0400
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On Monday 19 September 2005 14:27, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> Allen Winter wrote:
> > Is anyone else experiencing amarok 1.3.1 hanging after playing about a
> > dozen songs? It is repeatedly hanging for me and then I have to go and
> > kill the amarokapp process.
> > % rpm -q amarok
> > amarok-1.3.1-2.fc4
>
> Sounds like https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=168618
Sort of, but not quite.
However it does seem to be related to populating playlists.
Drag-n-drop more songs to the playlist while playing seems to have something to do
with the hang. I don't experience a crash... just a non-responsive app.
When I put my mouse over the systray icon the cursor turns into the hourglass and
I can't do anything with the thing.
> Which sound engine are you using ?
arts
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:30:46 +0300
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First:
apt-get update gives checksum errors. I realize Rex said that it was harmless, but \
its annoying none-the-less.
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for \
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/4/i386/base/pkglist.stable
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for \
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/4/i386/base/release.stable
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for \
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/4/i386/base/pkglist.testing
W: Release file did not contain checksum information for \
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/fedora/4/i386/base/release.testing
Second:
apt-get -f install k3b k3b-devel k3b-extras gives
k3b-devel: Depends: k3b (= %{epoch}:0.12.4a-1.0.fc4.kde) but 0.12.4a-1.0.fc4.kde is \
to be installed
k3b-extras: Depends: k3b (= %{epoch}:0.12.4a) but 0.12.4a-1.0.fc4.kde is to be \
installed
Eli
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Hi Yaal
This is not for the sufficiently annoyed.
I've been using Yum for about a week now, and have gotten sufficiently annoyed
to continue using apt-get until I really can't do anything more with it.
Compared to apt-get yum sucks. In my opinion its slower, dumber, and less
flexible. Anybody else out there sufficiently annoyed? If so, any suggestions
on how to get a petition going to get development restarted? So support can
continue.
Eli
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 21:40:15 +0300
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Hi
I've been getting a lot of Kicker crashes recenly when logging out of KDE. It
would seem that the backtrace is pointing to Kickpim. However, I cannot seem
to copy / paste because I'm logging out. Anybody else? Any suggestions before
I post a bug report?
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From: Eli Wapniarski <eli@orbsky.homelinux.org>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Sufficiently Annoyed with Yum
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On Tuesday, 20 =D7=91September 2005 21:35, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> Hi Yaal
>
> This is not for the sufficiently annoyed.
Oops meant to say that, "This is not for the not sufficiently annoyed."
> )
Eli
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From: Tim Wunder <tim@thewunders.org>
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] Kicker Crashes
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:57:27 -0400
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On Tuesday 20 September 2005 2:40 pm, someone claiming to be Eli Wapniarski
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> Hi
>
> I've been getting a lot of Kicker crashes recenly when logging out of KDE.
> It would seem that the backtrace is pointing to Kickpim. However, I cannot
> seem to copy / paste because I'm logging out. Anybody else? Any suggestions
> before I post a bug report?
>
My wife regularly gets kicker crashes when she logs out. Haven't been able to
consistently duplicate the problem. I occasionally get kicker crashes, but
usually after some issues with running KDE via a FreeNX connection.
IIRC, there is a kicker crash bug that has been marked as closed, but with
reference to other unnamed kicker crasher bugs... here it is:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104152
See comment #19 for the reference to other, unnamed kicker crasher bugs.
HTH,
Tim
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14:40:01 up 13 days, 19:17, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00
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On Tuesday 20 Sep 2005 19:35, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> I've been using Yum for about a week now, and have gotten sufficiently
> annoyed to continue using apt-get until I really can't do anything more
> with it. Compared to apt-get yum sucks. In my opinion its slower, dumber,
> and less flexible. Anybody else out there sufficiently annoyed? If so, any
> suggestions on how to get a petition going to get development restarted? So
> support can continue.
Well I have to agree with you Eli, after a month of trying/tweaking Yum my
preference is still APT.
I knew it was being dropped by Fedora but I did not know the development had
stopped.. Any links on this I wonder?
Cheers,
Colin
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On Tuesday 20 September 2005 5:01 pm, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 Sep 2005 19:35, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > I've been using Yum for about a week now, and have gotten sufficiently
> > annoyed to continue using apt-get until I really can't do anything more
> > with it. Compared to apt-get yum sucks. In my opinion its slower, dumber,
> > and less flexible. Anybody else out there sufficiently annoyed? If so,
> > any suggestions on how to get a petition going to get development
> > restarted? So support can continue.
>
> Well I have to agree with you Eli, after a month of trying/tweaking Yum my
> preference is still APT.
> I knew it was being dropped by Fedora but I did not know the development
> had stopped.. Any links on this I wonder?
>
Have either of you tried Smart? I'm installing it now - I keep reading glowing
reviews of it. The key guy from apt is part of the Smart team now.
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On Wednesday 21 September 2005 05:01, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> I knew it was being dropped by Fedora but I did not know the
> development had stopped..
It's being dropped in favor of what? This is news to me!
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On Tue September 20 2005 8:33 pm, Jeff Pitman wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 September 2005 05:01, Colin J Thomson wrote:
> > I knew it was being dropped by Fedora but I did not know the
> > development had stopped..
>
> It's being dropped in favor of what? This is news to me!
Colin is referring to apt, I believe. Even it's developer has dropped further
plans and is working on the smartpm project.
I got smart installed this evening - too early to say much. The GUI isn't a
knockout, but, it's strength lies in more robust capability in choosing
between different options when presented, and figuring out the best paths to
take, taking into account the system on which it's installed.
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Jeff Pitman wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 September 2005 05:01, Colin J Thomson wrote:
>
> > I knew it was being dropped by Fedora but I did not know the
> > development had stopped..
>
>
> It's being dropped in favor of what? This is news to me!
"It" being apt, I assume, as apt as stopped being developed in favor of
smart. yum is certainly still actively being developed.
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