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Today's Topics:
1. Re: KDE Screesaver on Centos 4.1 (Rex Dieter)
2. Re: KDE Screesaver on Centos 4.1 (Rex Dieter)
3. koffice in extras (Andrew Schretter)
4. Re: koffice in extras (Rex Dieter)
5. Re: No sound in 3.4.2 FC3 (Sam Johnson)
6. Re: No sound in 3.4.2 FC3 (Rex Dieter)
7. Re: KDE Screesaver on Centos 4.1 (Claude Jones)
8. Re: koffice in extras (Jose' Matos)
9. Re: koffice in extras (Rex Dieter)
10. kded and fam run after logout (Tim Wunder)
11. Re: No sound in 3.4.2 FC3 (Sam Johnson)
12. KDE 3.4.2 packages for Fedora 2 (Hans Ecke)
13. Re: KDE 3.4.2 packages for Fedora 2 (Rex Dieter)
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] Re: KDE Screesaver on Centos 4.1
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BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
> > WORKSFORME. Are you saying of the multitudes of screensavers listed,
> > *none* of them work?
> >
> > What version of xscreensaver do you have installed?
> >
> > $ rpm -q xscreensaver xscreensaver-base
> >
> > HINT: xscreensaver versions < 4.21 were buggy.
> I am using the standard Radeon driver that comes with Centos 4.1.
>
> Rex, when I execute the rpm -q command it tells me
> that I have xscreensaver-4.18-5.rhel4.2 installed.
> The xscreensaver-base is not installed.
>
> This is the version that installed with Centos 4.1.
>
> Is there a new Centos 4.1 release of xcreensaver available?
Yes, in the kde-redhat repo, to fix this exact problem.
$ yum update
should have upgraded it.
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BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
> Hi Rex and Claude!
>
> I am using the standard Radeon driver that comes with Centos 4.1.
>
> Rex, when I execute the rpm -q command it tells me
> that I have xscreensaver-4.18-5.rhel4.2 installed.
> The xscreensaver-base is not installed.
>
> This is the version that installed with Centos 4.1.
>
> Is there a new Centos 4.1 release of xcreensaver available?
If you installed kde-redhat's kdeartwork, it includes:
Requires: xscreensaver-base >= 1:4.21
which would have pulled in the known-to-work version.
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In the last couple of days, a koffice RPM has appears in Fedora Extras
that is versioned to replace the one from KDE-RedHat. This in and of itself
is not bad, but it is also split up into several subpackages, like :
koffice-core i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.3 M
koffice-filters i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.1 M
koffice-karbon i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 839 k
koffice-kchart i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 1.2 M
koffice-kexi i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.6 M
koffice-kformula i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 672 k
koffice-kivio i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 1.3 M
koffice-kpresenter i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.6 M
koffice-krita i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.0 M
koffice-kspread i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.0 M
koffice-kugar i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 481 k
koffice-kword i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.8 M
Worse, it is a package built without epoch so for some reason, it gets
priority over the epoch 4 koffice from KDE-RedHat. Question is, if we install
this beast by mistake or intentionally, will future koffice rpms from
KDE-RedHat have this layout as well or will they have Provides/Obsoletes to
take care of upgrading over this mess?
Andrew Schretter
Mathematics Department
Duke University
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Andrew Schretter wrote:
> In the last couple of days, a koffice RPM has appears in Fedora Extras
> that is versioned to replace the one from KDE-RedHat. This in and of itself
> is not bad, but it is also split up into several subpackages, like :
>
> koffice-core i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.3 M
> koffice-filters i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.1 M
> koffice-karbon i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 839 k
> koffice-kchart i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 1.2 M
> koffice-kexi i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.6 M
> koffice-kformula i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 672 k
> koffice-kivio i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 1.3 M
> koffice-kpresenter i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.6 M
> koffice-krita i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.0 M
> koffice-kspread i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 2.0 M
> koffice-kugar i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 481 k
> koffice-kword i386 1.4.1-4.fc4 local_extras-stable 3.8 M
>
> Worse, it is a package built without epoch so for some reason, it gets
> priority over the epoch 4 koffice from KDE-RedHat. Question is, if we install
> this beast by mistake or intentionally, will future koffice rpms from
> KDE-RedHat have this layout as well or will they have Provides/Obsoletes to
> take care of upgrading over this mess?
We'll be following Extras's lead, and package it likewise. As a matter
of fact, now that koffice is in Extras, kde-redhat, most likely, will no
longer provide it (for FC4 and newer).
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I don't see any knotifyrc file in that directory.
And, now that my sound it at 100, I still don't hear anything.
The soundcard detection app has never failed me before..... :o\
On 8/18/05, Rex Dieter <rdieter1@unl.edu> wrote:
>
> Sam Johnson wrote:
> > I cannot seem to get an ounce of sound out of FC3. Even the Soundcard
> > Detection tool finds the card, but no sound comes out at the push of the
> > Test Sound button.
> >
> > Are there any solutions?
>
> And make sure your sound card volume is > 0.
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> -- Rex
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<div>I don't see any knotifyrc file in that directory.</div>
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Sam Johnson wrote:
> I don't see any knotifyrc file in that directory.
>
> And, now that my sound it at 100, I still don't hear anything.
>
> The soundcard detection app has never failed me before..... :o\
You saying the soundcard detetion app doesn't play anything? If so,
there more wrong than just KDE.
-- Rex
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On Thursday 18 August 2005 8:27 pm, BRUCE STANLEY wrote:
> Hi Rex and Claude!
>
> I am using the standard Radeon driver that comes with Centos 4.1.
>
> Rex, when I execute the rpm -q command it tells me
> that I have xscreensaver-4.18-5.rhel4.2 installed.
> The xscreensaver-base is not installed.
>
> This is the version that installed with Centos 4.1.
>
> Is there a new Centos 4.1 release of xcreensaver available?
If I read Rex correctly, he is using the same video card with the xorg
built-in drivers, successfully. I defer to his far greater knowledge. I only
suggested the driver issue as a possibility...
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On Friday 19 August 2005 14:36, Rex Dieter wrote:
> We'll be following Extras's lead, and package it likewise. As a matter
> of fact, now that koffice is in Extras, kde-redhat, most likely, will no
> longer provide it (for FC4 and newer).
I am just curious and I have looked carefully into the differences.
Is there any significant difference between extras and your packages?
If there is we could lobby in extras to add the differences back. :-)
> -- Rex
PS: Completely unrelated and out of topic here but... do intend to submit the
maxima package that you had for some time to extras? :-)
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Jose' Matos wrote:
> On Friday 19 August 2005 14:36, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
> > We'll be following Extras's lead, and package it likewise. As a matter
> > of fact, now that koffice is in Extras, kde-redhat, most likely, will no
> > longer provide it (for FC4 and newer).
>
>
> I am just curious and I have looked carefully into the differences.
> Is there any significant difference between extras and your packages?
In general, we follow Extras' lead, unless I vehemently disagree with
their packaging decisions (which hasn't occurred... yet).
> PS: Completely unrelated and out of topic here but... do intend to submit the
> maxima package that you had for some time to extras? :-)
Yep, I was just working on that yesterday... (-:
-- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] kded and fam run after logout
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For reasons I've yet to figure out, I occasionally have kded and fam
continue running after logging out. This results in a significant
performance hit as extra RAM and CPU time is consumed. Any ideas what
would be causing this problem? I've done a quick google on "kded fam
after logout" but did not get any useful hits.
Using KDE 3.4.1 as packaged by kde-redhat on Fedora Core 2.
FWIW, 'killall kded' does nothing, I need to 'killall -9 kded' in order
to kill kded (and fam with it). When executing 'free' after that, it
does not appear that any RAM is being cleared.
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Tim
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] No sound in 3.4.2 FC3
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I happen to be using a SoundBlaster Live! Value sound card. It worked on my
previous FC3 install.
What could be wrong then? Sound plays in XP (Dual-boot).
-Sam Johnson
On Friday 19 August 2005 09:48 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Sam Johnson wrote:
> > I don't see any knotifyrc file in that directory.
> >
> > And, now that my sound it at 100, I still don't hear anything.
> >
> > The soundcard detection app has never failed me before..... :o\
>
> You saying the soundcard detetion app doesn't play anything? If so,
> there more wrong than just KDE.
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> -- Rex
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] KDE 3.4.2 packages for Fedora 2
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Folks,
At http://acoustics.mines.edu/~hans/kde342/ you can find KDE 3.4.2
compiled for Fedora Core 2.
These RPMs are not supported or waranted in any way. I do not have time
to be a packager like Rex. If you want additional things compiled, do it
yourself, it is not hard. Rex writes excellent .spec files. If you find
a bug, fix it and tell me the solution. I'll incorporate it.
A few notes as I remember them:
* Twice gcc or gas would just die with a segfault or internal
compiler error. Rerunning "rpmbuild" helped there.
* Most packages are tagged ".fc2." but not all, for no good reason. All
packages were compiled for fedora 2.
* kdebindings were compiled for Sun's java SDK which for me lives in
/usr/java/jdk
* kdeartwork does not have a requirement for xscreensaver because I do
not have that installed. But I had xscreensaver installed for the build
process, so it should work for you one way or the other.
* qt is compiled without immodule and sql support
* installing redhat-menus-3.8-0.1.kde gives this warning:
/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu saved as
/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.rpmsave
/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.redhat has not been configured as
an alternative for applications.menu
I do not know what that means
REX: should I use kde-menus or redhat-menus? They appear to be mutually
exclusive.
* I signed everything with my key
* I also use AT-rpms, newrpms, dries, dag, freshrpms, livna etc.
These packages might have dependencies on things you do not have
installed. YMMV.
Hope this helps.
Hans
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Hans Ecke wrote:
> * installing redhat-menus-3.8-0.1.kde gives this warning:
> /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu saved as
> /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.rpmsave
> /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu.redhat has not been configured as
> an alternative for applications.menu
> I do not know what that means
It's harmless.
> REX: should I use kde-menus or redhat-menus? They appear to be mutually
> exclusive.
redhat-menus. kde-menus is pretty much deprecated.
-- Rex
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