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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: amarok and sound system auto-suspend (Thomas Chiverton)
   2. Re: amarok and sound system auto-suspend (Logan Lewis)
   3. How to recompile for FC2? (Hans Ecke)
   4. Re: How to recompile for FC2? (Rex Dieter)
   5. Re: How to recompile for FC2? (Tim Wunder)
   6. FC4 x86_64 (DVS)
   7. Re: FC4 x86_64 (Rex Dieter)
   8. Re: FC4 x86_64 (DVS)
   9. Re: FC4 x86_64 (Rex Dieter)
  10. Re: How to recompile for FC2? (Hans Ecke)
  11. Re: Re: How to recompile for FC2? (Rex Dieter)
  12. Re: Re: How to recompile for FC2? (Tim Wunder)

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On Thursday 11 August 2005 19:25, Logan Lewis wrote:
> > Using Xine engine appears to disable cross-fade ?
> Hmm, apparently.  I never use those features, sorry.  I like xine since
> it can do completely gapless transitions, something I think other
> engines couldn't quite do.

What is the difference betwen gapless and cross-fade ?

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Tom Chiverton 
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On Tuesday 16 August 2005 5:05 am, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
> What is the difference betwen gapless and cross-fade ?

As I understand it, adding a gap in the playback causes a pause after 
one file ends before another file starts.  Cross-fade fades away a file 
and fades in the next song.

Logan


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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 08:29:45 -0600 (MDT)
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Hi,

I still have a few Fedora Core 2 machines running and would like to have 
KDE 3.4.2 on them. I understand you do not want to support FC2 anymore. 
I really appreciate all your work, kde-redhat is one of the most stable 
and useful repositories I know.

Do you have instructions on how to recompile packages? I suppose the 
main thing I need is the correct order of compilation.

Thanks

Hans


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Hans Ecke wrote:

> I still have a few Fedora Core 2 machines running and would like to have 
> KDE 3.4.2 on them.
...
> Do you have instructions on how to recompile packages? I suppose the 
> main thing I need is the correct order of compilation.

The BuildRequires dependancies pretty much force only 1 order of 
building things:

1. qt
2. arts
3. kdelibs
4. Most other core kde packages: kdepim, kdebase, etc...
5. A few others depend on pkgs from step4, ie, kdeaddons, kdesdk

-- Rex


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On Tuesday 16 August 2005 10:29 am, someone claiming to be Hans Ecke wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I still have a few Fedora Core 2 machines running and would like to have
> KDE 3.4.2 on them. I understand you do not want to support FC2 anymore.
> I really appreciate all your work, kde-redhat is one of the most stable
> and useful repositories I know.
>
> Do you have instructions on how to recompile packages? I suppose the
> main thing I need is the correct order of compilation.
>

Would you mind making the packages publically available? I'd like to load 
3.4.2 on my FC2 install as well.

Regards, 
Tim

-- 
Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang), Linux 2.6.12-ck3
KDE: 3.4.1-1.0.fc2.kde, xorg-x11-6.8.2-1.FC2.13
 10:50:00 up 1 day, 15:34,  2 users,  load average: 2.38, 2.24, 2.26
MP3/OGG archive Total playlength : 7 days, 7 hours, 39 mins 40 seconds
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts" John Wooden

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Are there any plans to offer an x86_64 build for FC4? I notice that the repo 
includes x86_64 directories but these appear empty. 

-- 
Regards,

Rob


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DVS wrote:
> Are there any plans to offer an x86_64 build for FC4? I notice that the repo 
> includes x86_64 directories but these appear empty. 

Several reasons:
1.  I have no x86_64 build box(es)
2.  Since I lack 1, I don't have much time/motivation/interest to do it 
myself on someone else's box.

Now, in the short-term, if some sucker^?^?^?^?^?, err, volunteer were to 
offer their x86_64 and the time/effort to build the packages, we 
certainly could host them.

Long term, we'll soon be putting mroe efforts into merging with other 
repositories, like ATrpms and/or RPMforge, that already support x86_64 
and use their infrastructure.

-- Rex


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On Tuesday 16 Aug 2005 16:37, Rex Dieter wrote:

> DVS wrote:
> > Are there any plans to offer an x86_64 build for FC4? I notice that the
> > repo includes x86_64 directories but these appear empty.
> 
> Several reasons:
> 1.  I have no x86_64 build box(es)
> 2.  Since I lack 1, I don't have much time/motivation/interest to do it
> myself on someone else's box.

Understandable :)

> Now, in the short-term, if some sucker^?^?^?^?^?, err, volunteer were to
> offer their x86_64 and the time/effort to build the packages, we
> certainly could host them.

I'll see what I can do (although I'm not promising anything). Before sending 
my original mail I had already recompiled a couple of the SRPMs from the repo 
(mainly kdemultimedia, amarok and kaffieine) but they were somewhat 
problematic. Mainly the dependencies didn't compile cleanly (libtunepimp 
springs to mind as I had to patch the source) or, in terms of kdemultimedia, 
the 64bit QT libs weren't being found by configure (as a quick fix I hacked 
the spec file to tell configure exactly where to find QT). 

I'll setup a proper build environment on my Dual Opteron box and see what I 
can do in terms of rebuilding the SRPMs. Be useful for my AMD64 desktops if 
nothing else :-)

-- 
Best regards,
 Rob Hall - Red Hat Certified Engineer
 Technical Team Leader
 Newsquest Digital Media


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DVS wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 Aug 2005 16:37, Rex Dieter wrote:

> > Now, in the short-term, if some sucker^?^?^?^?^?, err, volunteer were to
> > offer their x86_64 and the time/effort to build the packages, we
> > certainly could host them.

> I'll see what I can do (although I'm not promising anything). Before sending 
> my original mail I had already recompiled a couple of the SRPMs from the repo 
> (mainly kdemultimedia, amarok and kaffieine) but they were somewhat 
> problematic. Mainly the dependencies didn't compile cleanly (libtunepimp 
> springs to mind as I had to patch the source) or, in terms of kdemultimedia, 
> the 64bit QT libs weren't being found by configure (as a quick fix I hacked 
> the spec file to tell configure exactly where to find QT). 

It could very well be that many kde-redhat packages have x86_64-specific 
issues, as this has had little/no build or end-user testing.

Any feedback, testing, and/or patches are welcome.

-- Rex


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Rex et. al.-

I'm compiling right now. Do you recommend any command line arguments to 
"rpmbuild -bb"? Any general comments on FC2?

Point 5. is ambiguous: do I need kdeaddons and kdesdk in order to build 
"a few others" or do kdeaddons and kdesdk depend on kdepim, kdebase etc?

Tim, I'll put the packages on a webpage when I'm done. Qt will not have 
immodule or sql but will have motif extensions. YMMV.

Cheers

Hans

> The BuildRequires dependancies pretty much force only 1 order of 
> building things:
> 
> 1. qt
> 2. arts
> 3. kdelibs
> 4. Most other core kde packages: kdepim, kdebase, etc...
> 5. A few others depend on pkgs from step4, ie, kdeaddons, kdesdk


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Hans Ecke wrote:
> Rex et. al.-
> 
> I'm compiling right now. Do you recommend any command line arguments to 
> "rpmbuild -bb"? Any general comments on FC2?

You can add
--define "dist .fc2"
if you want to add a dist_tag to the Release, otherwise, no.

> Point 5. is ambiguous: do I need kdeaddons and kdesdk in order to build 
> "a few others" or do kdeaddons and kdesdk depend on kdepim, kdebase etc?

The latter.

-- Rex

> Tim, I'll put the packages on a webpage when I'm done. Qt will not have 
> immodule or sql but will have motif extensions. YMMV.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> > The BuildRequires dependancies pretty much force only 1 order of 
> > building things:
> > 
> > 1. qt
> > 2. arts
> > 3. kdelibs
> > 4. Most other core kde packages: kdepim, kdebase, etc...
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:28:15 -0400
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On Tuesday 16 August 2005 1:12 pm, someone claiming to be Hans Ecke wrote:
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>
> Tim, I'll put the packages on a webpage when I'm done. Qt will not have
> immodule or sql but will have motif extensions. YMMV.
>
<snip>

Excellent. WIll try them when you're done. I've recompiled from SRPM in the 
past and was either going to do that again, or install FC4 and move into the 
modern era ;). I've written about my travails here:
http://www.linux-sxs.org/upgrading/BuildingOptimizedRPMs.html

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