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Today's Topics:
1. Downloading (Mikhail Ramendik)
2. Re: Downloading (Rex Dieter)
3. Re: krdc in kdenetwork needs libcrypto.so.4 (Rex Dieter)
4. Re: krdc in kdenetwork needs libcrypto.so.4 (Sam Johnson)
5. Re: FC4 locks up in screen saver (Rob Hughes)
6. Re: FC4 locks up in screen saver (Claude Jones)
7. Re: FC4 locks up in screen saver (Rex Dieter)
8. Re: FC4 locks up in screen saver (Claude Jones)
9. Re: Downloading (Mikhail Ramendik)
10. Re: Downloading (Rex Dieter)
11. Re: FC4 locks up in screen saver (Rob Hughes)
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Hello,
I would like to install kde 3.4.1 on my home computer. I have an rh9-based
system with yum.
But the Internet connection at home has per megabyte payment. I wanted to
download the stuff at another place.
But I found ou that the three directories that are apparently needed:
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/fedora/9/stable
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/9/stable
http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/all/stable
comprise over a gigabyte! Actual KDE stuff is probably much less, but there
are some reuqirements - and then many really unneeded RPMs.
Would it somehow be possible to make a list of files required to install de
3.4.1 ? Or do I have to download all of this gigabyte if I want to download
at a different place?
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Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
> I would like to install kde 3.4.1 on my home computer. I have an rh9-based
> system with yum.
...
> Would it somehow be possible to make a list of files required to install de
> 3.4.1 ? Or do I have to download all of this gigabyte if I want to download
> at a different place?
There is no definitive list, as we pretty much rely on dependancy
resolvers like yum or apt to do the hard work.
I'd suggest simulating an install/upgrade following the instructions at
http://kde-redhat.sf.net/
and taking note of which packages yum/apt says will be installed. Those
are the ones you'll need.
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Jeff Pitman wrote:
> On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:53, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>
> > > After this, krdc runs.
> > >
> > >
> > Is this on FC4?
> >
> yes.
>
I think this can be tracked down to a kdelibs issue.
> yes. Samba from kde-redhat doesn't work also because of libssl.so.4
> missing.
>
>
I don't follow. kde-redhat doesn't provide samba for FC4. ???
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I found that in FC4 the link to my FC4 / partition in system:/ said it was
unmounted; yet had a green light so I couldnt access my hard drive from
system:/.
devices:/ and media:/ dont work either.
On 7/8/05, Rex Dieter <rdieter1@math.unl.edu> wrote:
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> Jeff Pitman wrote:
>
> >On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:53, Rex Dieter wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>After this, krdc runs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Is this on FC4?
> >>
> >yes.
> >
>
> I think this can be tracked down to a kdelibs issue.
>
>
> >yes. Samba from kde-redhat doesn't work also because of libssl.so.4
> >missing.
> >
> >
> I don't follow. kde-redhat doesn't provide samba for FC4. ???
>
> -- Rex
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I found that in FC4 the link to my FC4 / partition in system:/ said it
was unmounted; yet had a green light so I couldnt access my hard drive
from system:/.<br>
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devices:/ and media:/ dont work either.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On \
7/8/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Rex Dieter</b> <<a \
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204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Jeff Pitman \
wrote:<br><br>>On Thursday 07 July 2005 18:53, Rex Dieter \
wrote:<br>><br>><br>>>>After this, krdc \
runs.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>Is this on \
FC4?<br>>><br>>yes.<br>> <br><br>I think this can be tracked down to a \
kdelibs issue.<br><br><br>>yes. Samba from kde-redhat doesn't work also \
because of libssl.so.4<br>>missing.<br>><br>><br>I don't \
follow. kde-redhat doesn't provide samba for FC4. ??? \
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] FC4 locks up in screen saver
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On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 20:35 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> FC4 box with KDE-Redhat, ATI Radeon video card with the latest driver and
> kernel module from livna - same card is in my home machine which is not doing
> this. Most of the time, when I try to stop the screensaver the login prompt
> window appears, but everything is locked up - nothing, nada - I have to hard
> reset the computer - can't even escape to another shell. Anyone else get
> this, and figure it out?
Hate to say it, but it's most likely related to the ATI drivers. Does
this also happen if you use the generic ATI driver and a non-opengl
screensaver?
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On Fri July 8 2005 8:21 am, Rob Hughes wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 20:35 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> > FC4 box with KDE-Redhat, ATI Radeon video card with the latest driver and
> > kernel module from livna - same card is in my home machine which is not
> > doing this. Most of the time, when I try to stop the screensaver the
> > login prompt window appears, but everything is locked up - nothing, nada
> > - I have to hard reset the computer - can't even escape to another shell.
> > Anyone else get this, and figure it out?
>
> Hate to say it, but it's most likely related to the ATI drivers. Does
> this also happen if you use the generic ATI driver and a non-opengl
> screensaver?
>
Perhaps you missed part of what I said; ATI driver was the first thing I
suspected. As I state above, I have practically an identical machine at home
with the same video card and livna drivers, but the home machine never locks
up.
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Claude Jones wrote:
> As I stated, I have practically an identical machine at home
> with the same video card and livna drivers, but the home machine never locks
> up.
Well, it's not *exactly* the same. (-: You could very well have 1
good/working card/machine, and 1 bad/overheating/locking card/machine.
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On Friday 08 July 2005 9:27 am, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Claude Jones wrote:
> > As I stated, I have practically an identical machine at home
> > with the same video card and livna drivers, but the home machine never
> > locks up.
>
> Well, it's not *exactly* the same. (-: You could very well have 1
> good/working card/machine, and 1 bad/overheating/locking card/machine.
>
> -- Rex
That's true. I don't suspect heat because I'm fanatical about cooling my
machines. Working in video production for a long time, I learned long ago
that serious cooling pays off. But, other factors 'could' be different as you
point out. I have gone both ways on the open-gl and turning them off made no
difference. However, one thing I seemed to have ascertained, though I need to
test some more - turning off the forced password to relog-on seems to have
fixed it.
--
Claude Jones
Bluemont, VA, USA
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Rex Dieter wroye:
> I'd suggest simulating an install/upgrade following the instructions at
> http://kde-redhat.sf.net/
> and taking note of which packages yum/apt says will be installed. Those
> are the ones you'll need.
This would be the perfect solution. Unfortunately, I could not find the
instructions on simulating an upgrade on that site. Could you please help me
out? (I have yum 2.1).
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Mikhail Ramendik wrote:
> Rex Dieter wroye:
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> > I'd suggest simulating an install/upgrade following the instructions at
> > http://kde-redhat.sf.net/
> > and taking note of which packages yum/apt says will be installed. Those
> > are the ones you'll need.
> >
> >
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> This would be the perfect solution. Unfortunately, I could not find the
> instructions on simulating an upgrade on that site. Could you please help me
> out? (I have yum 2.1).
>
>
>
When you execute the
yum install ...
command, and it asks for confirmation to continue (y/N), say no. (-:
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] FC4 locks up in screen saver
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On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 09:18 -0400, Claude Jones wrote:
> Perhaps you missed part of what I said; ATI driver was the first thing I
> suspected. As I state above, I have practically an identical machine at home
> with the same video card and livna drivers, but the home machine never locks
> up.
Nope, caught that, had many bad and very unpredictable experiences with
ATI's "drivers" up to an including the most recent release. If you need
anything other than a basic 2D driver, nvidia is still the only way to
go. Though, granted, ATI has gotten better. But they still aren't good.
I guess the worst part is I've seen exactly what you're describing: two
identical machines, one runs like crud, the other is fine. Reverting to
the basic ATI driver "fixed" it.
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