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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: kde-3.4.x and -fvisibility (Eli Wapniarski)
2. apt-get issue (Eli Wapniarski)
3. OT: kxsrun / kxsconfig on vanialla FC4. (Gilboa Davara)
4. KMail crashed on replying (Olaf Mueller)
5. Re: apt-get issue (Rex Dieter)
6. Re: KMail crashed on replying (Sam Johnson)
7. Re: apt-get issue (Sam Johnson)
8. Re: apt-get issue (Rex Dieter)
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> > Could be a gcc4 bug w/ -fvisibility (which the stock fedora packages
> > disable). We already had to disable it for arts.
>
> After much searching I found this... apparently kde's fault and a
> slight mis-use of -fvisibility:
>
> http://bugs.kde.org/101542
>
> Now, back to rebuilding with visibility disabled. Ugh, this affects
> fc4 mostly, but it does include fc3 and rhel4 too, which may explain
> some of the wierd often-non-reproducable problems folks have been
> reporting.
Great eye... I'm assuming that preliminary packages for fc4 are being
rebuilt as
I type. Would you please announce when the rebuild is finished.
Thanks
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I just read from www.fedora.us that apt-get for RPMs is no longer being
developed. Is that true?
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Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 12:38:54 +0300
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] OT: kxsrun / kxsconfig on vanialla FC4.
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Hello all,
A rather OT question:
I'm trying to get GLMatrix and other GL screen-savers working on vanilla
KDE 3.4.1 running on FC4/x86-64.
By looking at my KDE-Redhat FC3 machines, I can see that KDE is using
kxsrun/kxsconfig as a mid layer between KDE and xscreensaver.
I couldn't find either of them in my new FC4 installations.
As far as I could see, these binaries were a part of vanilla (AKA non
KDE-Redhat) KDE installations of FC2 and FC3.
So. Am I right? Anyone else seeing this?
Should I report this as a bug?
Is there any way (short of rebuilding KDE) to run GL screensavers under
KDE? (without disabling Kscreensavers and running xscreensaver instead?)
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<BR>
A rather OT question:<BR>
I'm trying to get GLMatrix and other GL screen-savers working on vanilla KDE 3.4.1 \
running on FC4/x86-64.<BR> By looking at my KDE-Redhat FC3 machines, I can see that \
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couldn't find either of them in my new FC4 installations.<BR> As far as I could see, \
these binaries were a part of vanilla (AKA non KDE-Redhat) KDE installations of FC2 \
and FC3.<BR> <BR>
So. Am I right? Anyone else seeing this?<BR>
Should I report this as a bug? <BR>
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Hello,
this is a real nightmare, I have had never lost a mail before under
linux. But today, kmail (under kontact) crashed and with it my reply
to an mail. My long :-( answer to this mail is now lost and could not
be restored. Ok, now I am a bit disappointed, so please excuse me, but
could it be that using kde under fc4 is not so a good idea?
First RedHat deformed kde, then a special kde-redhat project is
neccessary to make kde usable under RedHat (thank you Rex for your
excellent work, without it, I would be using debian and kde for a long
time now), but then blacklisted the kde project the gcc of fc4 and now
I find myself under a desktop, that crashed all the time (konqueror,
arts, kontact, kicker).
What will be next?
Now, like every ms windows user has it maybe done before, I will type
my lost mail again. :-(
regards
Olaf
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Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> I just read from www.fedora.us that apt-get for RPMs is no longer being
> developed. Is that true?
Tis true. )-: The previous apt-rpm developer has developed a new tool
called 'smart'.
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We have been finding that it is a good idea to either save the messange as a
draft then move to outbox, or just not run KMail from within Kontact and run
it by itself, they are fixing the problem and rebuilding packages as we
type. The rest of KDE-Redhat for FC4 seems to be working fine, exept for
when sound previews are on in Konq it crashes on icon mouseover.
Hope this helps.
On 6/21/05, Olaf Mueller <daily-planet@istari.de> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> this is a real nightmare, I have had never lost a mail before under
> linux. But today, kmail (under kontact) crashed and with it my reply
> to an mail. My long :-( answer to this mail is now lost and could not
> be restored. Ok, now I am a bit disappointed, so please excuse me, but
> could it be that using kde under fc4 is not so a good idea?
>
> First RedHat deformed kde, then a special kde-redhat project is
> neccessary to make kde usable under RedHat (thank you Rex for your
> excellent work, without it, I would be using debian and kde for a long
> time now), but then blacklisted the kde project the gcc of fc4 and now
> I find myself under a desktop, that crashed all the time (konqueror,
> arts, kontact, kicker).
> What will be next?
>
> Now, like every ms windows user has it maybe done before, I will type
> my lost mail again. :-(
>
>
> regards
> Olaf
>
>
>
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We have been finding that it is a good idea to either save the messange
as a draft then move to outbox, or just not run KMail from within
Kontact and run it by itself, they are fixing the problem and
rebuilding packages as we type. The rest of KDE-Redhat for FC4
seems to be working fine, exept for when sound previews are on in Konq
it crashes on icon mouseover.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/21/05, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Olaf Mueller</b> <<a \
href="mailto:daily-planet@istari.de">daily-planet@istari.de</a>> \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hello,<br><br>this is a \
real nightmare, I have had never lost a mail before under<br>linux. But today, kmail \
(under kontact) crashed and with it my reply<br>to an mail. My long :-( answer to \
this mail is now lost and could not <br>be restored. Ok, now I am a bit disappointed, \
so please excuse me, but<br>could it be that using kde under fc4 is not so a good \
idea?<br><br>First RedHat deformed kde, then a special kde-redhat project \
is<br>neccessary to make kde usable under RedHat (thank you Rex for your \
<br>excellent work, without it, I would be using debian and kde for a long<br>time \
now), but then blacklisted the kde project the gcc of fc4 and now<br>I find myself \
under a desktop, that crashed all the time (konqueror,<br> arts, kontact, \
kicker).<br>What will be next?<br><br>Now, like every ms windows user has it maybe \
done before, I will type<br>my lost mail again. \
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smart. Hmmmm, is it better then yum?
On 6/21/05, Rex Dieter <rdieter1@math.unl.edu> wrote:
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> Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > I just read from www.fedora.us <http://www.fedora.us> that apt-get for
> RPMs is no longer being
> > developed. Is that true?
>
> Tis true. )-: The previous apt-rpm developer has developed a new tool
> called 'smart'.
>
> -- Rex
>
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smart. Hmmmm, is it better then yum?<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On \
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wrote:<br>> I just read from <a href="http://www.fedora.us">www.fedora.us</a> that \
apt-get for RPMs is no longer being<br>> developed. Is that true?<br><br>Tis \
true. )-: The previous apt-rpm developer has developed a new \
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> smart. Hmmmm, is it better then yum?
Can't say, haven't used it... yet.
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