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Today's Topics:
1. CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion???? (Ken Godee)
2. OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no? (Rex Dieter)
3. Testing mail: Please ignore (Gustavo Seabra)
4. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or
no? (Karanbir Singh)
5. Re: dropdown list in konqueror occupies the entire screen (Jesus Salvo Jr.)
6. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Claude Jones)
7. Re: Testing mail: Please ignore (Claude Jones)
8. Re: OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or
no? (Rex Dieter)
9. Re: dropdown list in konqueror occupies the entire
screen (Rex Dieter)
10. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Jose' Matos)
11. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Claude Jones)
12. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Claude Jones)
13. Re: kde desktop blacks out (Kevin DeKorte)
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 21:50:18 -0700
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] CentOS 3.4 / yum -> pspell confusion????
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I'm using a fresh install of CentOS and I've got my yum.conf set to...
baseurl=http://apt.kde-redhat.org/apt/kde-redhat/centos/$releasever/stable
Trying my first install I get ....
"Package pspell-devel needs pspell = 3:0.12.2, this is not available."
My system has the following already installed....
==============================================================rpm -qa | grep pspell
pspell-0.12.2-16.1
pspell-devel-0.12.2-16.1
==============================================================Doing a "yum search pspell" returns....
Looking in available packages for a providing package
Available package: pspell12.i386 3:0.12.2-16.fdr.2.el3 from
kde-redhat-kde-stable matches with
pspell12
1 results returned
Looking in installed packages for a providing package
Installed package: pspell.i386 3:0.12.2-16.1 matches with
pspell
Installed package: pspell-devel.i386 3:0.12.2-16.1 matches with
Static libraries and header files for pspell.
Installed package: pspell-devel.i386 3:0.12.2-16.1 matches with
pspell-devel
Installed package: aspell-config.i386 2:0.33.7.1-25.3 matches with
This package contains the config files for apspell.
4 results returned
==============================================================
Any ideas????
I've talked with one other person with CentOS 3.x that had the same
problem and sure enough I hit it too.
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Subject: [kde-redhat-users] OFFTOPIC: GPL: src.rpm's required? yes or no?
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The GPL contains a section regarding source code:
----------------------------------------------
3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable
source code...
...
The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source
code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any
associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to
control compilation and installation of the executable.
----------------------------------------------
Now, I am of the opinion that if one distributes RPMS containing GPL'd
software, the GPL requires that one provide the RPM source code, ie, the
src.rpms, because
1. It is the "preferred form" of the work (in the context of rpms)
2. The src.rpm contains the rpm specfile, which is one of the "scripts
used to control compilation and installation".
When I raised this issue on another list (regarding a vendor of GPL
software, who distributes binary rpms, but only provides source tarballs
without either specfile or src.rpms), I was soundly trounced for being
an unreasonable idiot.
Now the real question: Am I really an unreasonable idiot? (I'm pretty
sure I'm at least not unreasonable... (-: )
One argument I see for being wrong is that the GPL applies *only* to the
binary executables, and not to their packaging.
What do you think?
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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:00:38 -0500
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Ok, If you decided not to ignore, here's why I needed this:
Some time ago my messages started getting rejected by the spamfilter
of SourceForge, even though my address is registered there. I
contacted the SourceForge people, and they supposedly solved the
problem. I am testing this now.
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Rex Dieter wrote:
> The GPL contains a section regarding source code:
> ----------------------------------------------
> The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
> making modifications to it. For an executable work, complete source
> code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any
> associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to
> control compilation and installation of the executable.
> ----------------------------------------------
>
> One argument I see for being wrong is that the GPL applies *only* to the
> binary executables, and not to their packaging.
an RPM, while being a package, is the deliverable binary form. The .spec
is a vital part of the source code used to generate this binary.
I see this, pretty clearly, as a GPL violation. But then thats just me.
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Subject: Re: [kde-redhat-users] dropdown list in konqueror occupies the entire screen
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Thanks. They have reopened it since they see the problem on FC4.
I guess my question is, why is it happening on FC3 + kde-redhat but not with
FC3 ( no kde-redhat ) ? Is it that kde-redhat artwork RPM on kde-redhat was
taken from FC4test ?
I dont have FC4 yet ... will take some time to one up and running.
On Monday 16 May 2005 21:48, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote:
> > Note that using a different style does NOT exhibit the problem.
> >
> > I did try to submit this to redhat ( as per your earlier suggestion ):
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id7809
> >
> > But unfortunately, it has been since flagged as not their problem since I
> > am using kde-redhat. Oh well ... no more bluecurve for me.
>
> Oh well, that's too bad. They'll most likely find that bug in FC4
> sooner or later.
>
> Can anyone reproduce it using FC4(test)?
>
>
> -- Rex
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On Mon May 16 2005 2:20 pm, Claude Jones wrote:
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. By the way, the office machine has the almost
> exact same configuration except it's a P4 2 ghz as opposed to 2.8 for home
> - same Radeon 9200SE card. I had the issue here last week and went through
> all the above steps, and it's working fine now - so go figure. By the time
> I finally left home the machine had been up for over 2 hours on the last
> KDE session I reported on, so maybe it's fixed now - I'll know in about 8
> more hours when I get home.
I'm back home, now. The machine is up and all seems well. Maybe one of those
earlier steps actually worked, and I didn't test properly -- at any rate,
both machines have stopped blacking out for now.
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On Mon May 16 2005 8:00 pm, Gustavo Seabra wrote:
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> contacted the SourceForge people, and they supposedly solved the
> problem. I am testing this now.
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Karanbir Singh wrote:
> an RPM, while being a package, is the deliverable binary form. The .spec
> is a vital part of the source code used to generate this binary.
>
> I see this, pretty clearly, as a GPL violation. But then thats just me.
Yes! So I'm not the only one crazy enough to think that way. (-: Thanks.
-- Rex
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Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote:
> Is it that kde-redhat artwork RPM on kde-redhat was
> taken from FC4test ?
Yep.
-- Rex
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On Monday 16 May 2005 13:55, Claude Jones wrote:
> 2.6.11-1.14_FC3
> KDE 3.4 with all the latest stable patches
> video card is a Radeon 9200SE
I had the same problem the last weekend. My laptop has a Radeon 9M.
It is interesting that after updating the kernel for 2.6.11-1.20_FC3 and
all packages last Monday this problem disappeared.
That problem stroked me as something related with a bad interaction
between the kernel and the screensavers as it only happened after the
letting the computer unattended for some time.
But as I said before this was gone after updating explicitly the kernel
and the other packages. So whatever you have done thanks Rex. ;-)
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On Mon May 16 2005 10:47 am, Jose' Matos wrote:
> On Monday 16 May 2005 13:55, Claude Jones wrote:
> > 2.6.11-1.14_FC3
> > KDE 3.4 with all the latest stable patches
> > video card is a Radeon 9200SE
>
> I had the same problem the last weekend. My laptop has a Radeon 9M.
>
> It is interesting that after updating the kernel for 2.6.11-1.20_FC3 and
> all packages last Monday this problem disappeared.
>
I'm curious - where are people getting this new kernel? Is this a testing or
unstable? I do regular yum updates, but this one hasn't appeared.
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On Mon May 16 2005 9:07 pm, Claude Jones wrote:
>
> I'm back home, now. The machine is up and all seems well. Maybe one of
> those earlier steps actually worked, and I didn't test properly -- at any
> rate, both machines have stopped blacking out for now.
Shouldn't have spoken so soon - I walked away from the machine for five
minutes and when I returned, the screen was blacked out with only the X
cursor visible...
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On Monday 16 May 2005 08:00 pm, Claude Jones wrote:
> On Mon May 16 2005 10:47 am, Jose' Matos wrote:
> > On Monday 16 May 2005 13:55, Claude Jones wrote:
> > > 2.6.11-1.14_FC3
> > > KDE 3.4 with all the latest stable patches
> > > video card is a Radeon 9200SE
> >
> > I had the same problem the last weekend. My laptop has a Radeon 9M.
> >
> > It is interesting that after updating the kernel for 2.6.11-1.20_FC3
> > and all packages last Monday this problem disappeared.
>
> I'm curious - where are people getting this new kernel? Is this a testing
> or unstable? I do regular yum updates, but this one hasn't appeared.
Claude,
Checkout this thread...
http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33812435
It was very helpful for me
Kevin
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