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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Speaking of the KDE league...
From:       Andreas Pour <pour () mieterra ! com>
Date:       2001-06-09 2:55:27
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blackfarm wrote:
> 
> On Friday 08 June 2001 11:29, David Faure wrote:
> > On Friday 08 June 2001 17:10, Mathias Waack wrote:
> > > On Friday 08 June 2001 16:02, Navindra Umanee wrote:
> > > > The hopes is that we will have
> > > > some form of US PR agency to attack the market.  $$$ is the
> > > > question.
> > >
> > > PR agency? Market? $$$?
> > >
> > > KDE is the result of the hard work of hundreds of developers with the
> > > help of thousands of users. Most of them had never seen a single cent
> > > for her work. And now you are going to spend money to people just to
> > > tell other poeple they should use KDE? What kind of result could we
> > > expect? One, two or even more percent "market penetration"? Maybe.
> > > More feedback and developers? From poeple who didn't heard about KDE
> > > until now? Who could this be? Are you really interested in a bunch of
> > > bug reports like "my internet is not working with KDE"? Where's the
> > > gain for the KDE project?
> >
> > The primary goal is to attract _companies_ to use KDE as a development
> > platform, and to distribute KDE with their stuff (have you seen that HP
> > signed with Ximian to make Ximian Gnome standard all their next
> > machine/unix/whatever it is ?). That's the kind of things we have to work
> > on, getting this kind of deal with big companies, otherwise KDE will go
> > nowhere (compared to its rival).
> > Yes, I agree, it's not users we should target directly with the PR. But
> > directing PR at companies is important.
> 
> Yes your a 100% correct with that one. We should be trying to attract
> companies to develop for kde. Maybe the league could advertise in the
> trade papers? One thing thats got to change is the terrible way that we treat
> commercial kde products. We should treat developers that choose kde as a
> platform much better. When the Kompany got imap support for aethera we didn't
> even see it on the dot. But a few weeks later a story was on there about
> kmail getting imap support. I hate the elitist snobby attitude that says if
> its commercial then we'll ignore it. Thats a big thing thats got to change.


Hello Craig,

I think Navindra explained to you already what happened on the dot
regarding IMAP in KDE apps.  At the time Aethera was released IMAP
support was already in kmail CVS, but that wasn't announced either.  The
imap announcement for kmail came as part of the kde 2.2alpha1
announcement (https://dot.kde.org/987977874/) in the ChangeLog where one
line was dedicated to KMail.  It's a bit different to include one line
about IMAP support in KMail in a ChangeLog for a KDE release then to
dedicate an entire story to it, as was the plan with theKompany.  I
think I also pointed out to you at the time that I planned to do a story
about IMAP support in KMail and Aethera (which I ended up lacking the
time to do) and also made it clear that if someone else wrote a story
about IMAP support in KDE and mentioned both Aethera and KMail that this
story would be approved, yet nobody volunteered to write this story.

In addition, I would note that the previous beta of Aethera has been
mentioned in a dot article (http://dot.kde.org/979768484/).  I have not
seen any other app get two articles on the dot, and certainly never for
two successive beta releases.  It is clear that some people consider it
a disappointment when not every software release by theKompany gets a
dot story; yet I have never heard you or anyone else complain when a
major release of free software such as Magellan or Innovation3D does not
get announced on the dot.

It is obvious you don't agree with the dot's editorial policies, Craig,
and that's a healthy thing, but please try not to slander it with
misleading statements like the ones you make above.

Regards,

Dre
Editor
dot.kde.org
 
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