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From: Harold Schreckengost <mewshi () gmail ! com>
Date: 2015-04-23 0:41:14
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I think having a proper KDE YouTube Channel would be fantastic from a
marketing perspective. (To answer your question about Blip, it's still
around, but in likely a *very* different capacity from what it was when
that list was written, and it seems quite removed from what we need).
I will ask over in the Visual Design Group if they have anyone experienced
with video who would be willing to help us get started with that aspect,
since all other tasks are predicated on that. Tonight and tomorrow, I will
work out what all we are likely to need for this. Is there a proper wiki
we can use? I haven't been able to nail that down for sure.
If you're interested, I can work out a full plan some time, something a
little more comprehensive?
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Sebastian K=C3=BCgler <sebas@kde.org> wrot=
e:
> Hi Harold,
>
> Thanks for looking into this.
>
> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 14:03:04 Harold Schreckengost wrote:
> > Oh! Apologies!
> >
> >
> https://community.kde.org/Promo/Get_Involved/Jobs#Solve_Technical.2FOrgan=
isa
> > tional_Problems
> >
> > The first task listed here, I'm very interested in. Stuart (listed as
> the
> > contact) noted that he was out of the loop lately. I mostly just need =
to
> > know who handles video as it is now.
>
> I think this wiki entry has to be seen in a wider context. Right now, whe=
n
> we're talking about promo videos, we have only scattered efforts by
> individuals, nothing like shared storybooks, assets or workflows, there's
> not
> even a canonical way to find "official KDE videos" on youtube. The wiki
> page
> mentions blip.tv, I dunno is that even still a thing?
>
> On the other hand, we can reach a pretty big audience. The 2 videos I've
> done
> for Plasma 5.0 (a short and a long version, which are hosted on my youtub=
e
> account, not an official KDE account) have combined 225.000 views by now.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not "the video guy" at KDE, I just jump in to hel=
p
> with promo stuff once in a while. I do have some background in marketing
> (in
> general, and in KDE) though. I know that the videos I produced aren't
> really
> great, but it's what I could do without a lot of experience. Many of thes=
e
> things get better with experience, and I think we need people who can hel=
p
> us
> with publishing cooler videos of our work.
>
> What I missed when making the videos was that I had to figure out the who=
le
> workflow myself, from making shorter videos of specific features, to syst=
em
> setup, how to blend in titles, what and how to encode properly for this
> purpose, as well as graphical assets suitable for use. That makes this
> quite a
> time-consuming task. I think if this workflow is defined in terms of tips
> and
> tricks, targeted howtos and example material, that would make it way
> easier to
> produce cool videos. Perhaps we can help each other then, developer shoot=
s
> a
> short film of a new feature, and someone from the promo team can then do
> the
> "production" of it as a short clip suitable for a user audience.
>
> I think using more video would be great as promo material, for user suppo=
rt
> (explanation of features), but also to "show off" cool stuff we can do. F=
or
> many people, who don't experience our software first hand, videos are a
> way to
> connect to our work before dipping in entirely.
>
> As to the task, perhaps it could be redefined and divided into subtasks a=
s:
> - requirement analysis
> - documentation (workflows, technicals, ...?)
> - graphical, audio and other assets
> - accounts and offical blessing for these
> - people who can do voice over?
> - finding more people who'd like to help with this topic, perhaps the wor=
k
> resulting from the requirements analysis can be split
> - getting started with the actual production (this ideally is done while
> writing documentation, as the best way to write docs is to try doing it a=
nd
> then describe what's going on).
> - producing more, shiny videos
> - pre-selecting audio background clips (license requirements, suggestions
> for
> titles and their download locations)
>
> So I think the big picture is that we want to promote KDE software by
> producing high quality videos. We achieve this higher quality by shared
> assets, documentation, workflows and sharing the work among us. The above
> are
> really just a few ideas of what I think would help. Picking up any of the=
se
> tasks is welcome, even more thinking about it freely (we're not married t=
o
> anything specific right now, it's more just one big glaring hole in our
> promo
> work), and attacking the problem in a pro-active way.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> sebas
>
> Sebastian K=C3=BCgler | http://vizZzion.org | http://kde.org
>
>
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<div dir="ltr">I think having a proper KDE YouTube Channel would be fantastic from a \
marketing perspective. (To answer your question about Blip, it's still around, \
but in likely a *very* different capacity from what it was when that list was \
written, and it seems quite removed from what we need).<div><br></div><div>I will ask \
over in the Visual Design Group if they have anyone experienced with video who would \
be willing to help us get started with that aspect, since all other tasks are \
predicated on that. Tonight and tomorrow, I will work out what all we are likely to \
need for this. Is there a proper wiki we can use? I haven't been able to nail \
that down for sure.</div><div><br></div><div>If you're interested, I can work out \
a full plan some time, something a little more comprehensive?</div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:42 PM, \
Sebastian Kügler <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sebas@kde.org" \
target="_blank">sebas@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Harold,<br> <br>
Thanks for looking into this.<br>
<br>
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 14:03:04 Harold Schreckengost wrote:<br>
> Oh! Apologies!<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://community.kde.org/Promo/Get_Involved/Jobs#Solve_Technical.2FOrganisa" \
target="_blank">https://community.kde.org/Promo/Get_Involved/Jobs#Solve_Technical.2FOrganisa</a><br>
<span class="">> tional_Problems<br>
><br>
> The first task listed here, I'm very interested in. Stuart (listed as \
the<br> > contact) noted that he was out of the loop lately. I mostly just need \
to<br> > know who handles video as it is now.<br>
<br>
</span>I think this wiki entry has to be seen in a wider context. Right now, when<br>
we're talking about promo videos, we have only scattered efforts by<br>
individuals, nothing like shared storybooks, assets or workflows, there's not<br>
even a canonical way to find "official KDE videos" on youtube. The wiki \
page<br> mentions <a href="http://blip.tv" target="_blank">blip.tv</a>, I dunno is \
that even still a thing?<br> <br>
On the other hand, we can reach a pretty big audience. The 2 videos I've \
done<br> for Plasma 5.0 (a short and a long version, which are hosted on my \
youtube<br> account, not an official KDE account) have combined 225.000 views by \
now.<br> <br>
Don't get me wrong, I'm not "the video guy" at KDE, I just jump in \
to help<br> with promo stuff once in a while. I do have some background in marketing \
(in<br> general, and in KDE) though. I know that the videos I produced aren't \
really<br> great, but it's what I could do without a lot of experience. Many of \
these<br> things get better with experience, and I think we need people who can help \
us<br> with publishing cooler videos of our work.<br>
<br>
What I missed when making the videos was that I had to figure out the whole<br>
workflow myself, from making shorter videos of specific features, to system<br>
setup, how to blend in titles, what and how to encode properly for this<br>
purpose, as well as graphical assets suitable for use. That makes this quite a<br>
time-consuming task. I think if this workflow is defined in terms of tips and<br>
tricks, targeted howtos and example material, that would make it way easier to<br>
produce cool videos. Perhaps we can help each other then, developer shoots a<br>
short film of a new feature, and someone from the promo team can then do the<br>
"production" of it as a short clip suitable for a user audience.<br>
<br>
I think using more video would be great as promo material, for user support<br>
(explanation of features), but also to "show off" cool stuff we can do. \
For<br> many people, who don't experience our software first hand, videos are a \
way to<br> connect to our work before dipping in entirely.<br>
<br>
As to the task, perhaps it could be redefined and divided into subtasks as:<br>
- requirement analysis<br>
- documentation (workflows, technicals, ...?)<br>
- graphical, audio and other assets<br>
- accounts and offical blessing for these<br>
- people who can do voice over?<br>
- finding more people who'd like to help with this topic, perhaps the work<br>
resulting from the requirements analysis can be split<br>
- getting started with the actual production (this ideally is done while<br>
writing documentation, as the best way to write docs is to try doing it and<br>
then describe what's going on).<br>
- producing more, shiny videos<br>
- pre-selecting audio background clips (license requirements, suggestions for<br>
titles and their download locations)<br>
<br>
So I think the big picture is that we want to promote KDE software by<br>
producing high quality videos. We achieve this higher quality by shared<br>
assets, documentation, workflows and sharing the work among us. The above are<br>
really just a few ideas of what I think would help. Picking up any of these<br>
tasks is welcome, even more thinking about it freely (we're not married to<br>
anything specific right now, it's more just one big glaring hole in our promo<br>
work), and attacking the problem in a pro-active way.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
sebas<br>
<br>
Sebastian Kügler | <a href="http://vizZzion.org" \
target="_blank">http://vizZzion.org</a> | <a href="http://kde.org" \
target="_blank">http://kde.org</a><br> </font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div \
class="h5"><br> <br>
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