On S= at, May 10, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> w= rote:

El Divendres, 9 de maig de 2014, a les 23:35= :23, Martin Klapetek va escriure:

> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Albert Astals Cid <= ;aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> > That's because they are all called 4.x and why we should stop= calling our
> > 3
> > future releases all 5.x ;-)
>
> You missed the point :)

You missed the point :)

> Majority of users will still perceive the desktop
> environment served by distros as one whole, they will not know and mos= t
> probably not care that it's three completely separate things; to t= hem it
> will all be one whole suite. All part of "the desktop".

And that's why my father thinks he's running "Linux"= ; or at most "KUbuntu",
people knowing which specific desktop they are running are geeks/power user= s.

And geeks/power users usually read the news for stuff they use, and once we=
start announcing three different things won't be able to call if "= KDE 5" if we
make sure 5 is not the common denominator of the naming of them.

Just wait and see...that's where I leave it n= ow :)
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>
> That's what people are used to from everywhere else btw - GNOME (s= hell +
> apps + gtk), LXDE/LXQt (whole shell + apps), XFCE (shell + apps), OS X=
> (shell + apps + cocoa), Windows (shell + apps), Android (basic system = +
> basic apps + Google system), iOS etc etc. What I'm trying to say,<= br> > everything around us, that is similar to what we produce, has one unif= ied
> name that encompasses the shell, basic apps and sometimes the toolkit = too.
>
> People /will/ look for one single word/name to call whatever distros s= how
> up after booting. I don't believe anyone would say "hey dudes= , so I'm
> running Plasma 5, KDE Applications 4.17 and Frameworks 5". It'= ;s awkward,
> long, tongue-tieing etc. It's just simpler for people to say one s= ingle
> word which everyone will understand, be it "Plasma" or "= ;KDE". One word to
> rule them all.

Sure, they may end up saying they are running Plasma XY, but that is = correct,
they are running Plasma XY with some apps, that may be or not from KDE
Applications release.

Which is why I as= ked in the first place, will/should "Plasma" be the name for the = whole shell/workspace/apps experience, the "KDE experience" that = Alex Fiestas was once blogging about and should we promote it as such? Or i= s the name "Plasma" intended only and only for the shell?

Cheers

Martin Klapetek | KDE=C2=A0Developer