From kde-promo Fri May 09 13:48:24 2014 From: Martin Klapetek Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 13:48:24 +0000 To: kde-promo Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Plasma 5 Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-promo&m=139964334927888 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0194709056705946647==" --===============0194709056705946647== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043891ffc961f704f8f7dbba --f46d043891ffc961f704f8f7dbba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian K=C3=BCgler wrote= : > > I've come to think that we have two kinds of groups: > > - "Old Farts", they reject change, anyway, and they won't be budged to no= t > call it KDE 5, they will get confusing reactions to that, but won't > really > care, except perhaps bitch more about versions > FYI, the biggest Czech server about Linux, abclinuxu.cz, is already talking about KDE5[1], it's in the exact same sense as "KDE4" was used back in the 4.0 days. This brings a question - are we going to call Plasma 5 only the shell (panel+wallpaper) or the "whole experience", including applications (and a bundle of frameworks)? If the former, then people /will/ call it KDE5 because they will look for some simple word to encompass that "what distributions ship", which would be Plasma shell 5, KDE Applications whatever and KDE Frameworks 5 combination. And it's just awkward to think every. single. time about "am I supposed to write Applications here? Or Plasma? Or...ah to hell with it, I'll put down KDE5, people will understand". So I'd propose to call the "experience" Plasma 5, not just the shell, which used to be KDE Plasma Workspaces in the 4 times. I'm also thinking we could each spend 10 minutes and email our national biggest Linux/FOSS news servers (the serious ones, not the phoronix crap ones) and tell them things changed and how. I bet we could cover whole EU if everyone on this list emails their respective country servers. If they will still get it wrong, nothing we can do... [1] The intro paragraph - http://www.abclinuxu.cz/clanky/kubuntu-14.04-lts-aneb-ubuntu-s-nejnovejsim-= kde-4.13 Cheers --=20 Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer --f46d043891ffc961f704f8f7dbba Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On F= ri, May 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian K=C3=BCgler <sebas@kde.org> wrote:

I've come to think that we have two kinds of groups:

- "Old Farts", they reject change, anyway, and they won't be = budged to not
=C2=A0 call it KDE 5, they will get confusing reactions to that, but won= 9;t really
=C2=A0 care, except perhaps bitch more about versions
=
FYI, the biggest Czech server about Linux, abclinuxu.cz, is already talking about KDE5[1], it's= in the exact same sense as "KDE4" was used back in the 4.0 days.=

This brings a question - are we going to call Plasma 5 = only the shell (panel+wallpaper) or the "whole experience", inclu= ding applications (and a bundle of frameworks)?

If the former, then people /will/ call it KDE5 because they will look for s= ome simple word to encompass that "what distributions ship", whic= h would be Plasma shell 5, KDE Applications whatever and KDE Frameworks 5 c= ombination. And it's just awkward to think every. single. time about &q= uot;am I supposed to write Applications here? Or Plasma? Or...ah to hell wi= th it, I'll put down KDE5, people will understand".

So I'd propose to call the "experience" P= lasma 5, not just the shell, which used to be KDE Plasma Workspaces in the = 4 times.

I'm also thinking we could each spend= 10 minutes and email our national biggest Linux/FOSS news servers (the ser= ious ones, not the phoronix crap ones) and tell them things changed and how= . I bet we could cover whole EU if everyone on this list emails their respe= ctive country servers. If they will still get it wrong, nothing we can do..= .

=C2=A0
Cheers
--
Martin Klapetek | KDE=C2=A0Developer
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