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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Releases overwhelming us - need for improving the dot?
From:       Stuart Jarvis <jarvis () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-04-11 10:39:51
Message-ID: 1423603.VVAQWvEZln () ezekiel ! lan
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Hi,

On Friday 11 April 2014 11:25:43 Τάσος Κούτλας wrote:
> For the workflow issues Jos explained there is a workflow module for drupal
> shown here: https://drupal.org/project/workflow.
> 
> CKEditor (https://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg and
> https://drupal.org/project/ckeditor) should do the editor trick.

Ok, thanks for the pointers

> Images in drupal are a bit problematic and it realy depends on how you will
> treat them. For adding inline images arbiterally I think that
> Insert<https://drupal.org/project/insert>module (
> https://drupal.org/project/insert), which integrates with
> WYSISWYG<https://drupal.org/project/wysiwyg>and
> CKEditor <https://drupal.org/project/ckeditor>, will do the trick.

Ok, we'll probably have to do some experimentation - Jos may have some 
comments if there were other things he had in mind too...

> Are there any kind of roles within the team at the Dot? Are there any
> editors or authors how is that process getting on?

There are several roles defined, but not used to the full extent:
- Registered user: doesn't really make much difference to unregistered user, we 
could use this to disallow unregistered comments (has been discussed in past). 
Can view own unpublished content.
- KDE contributor: not really used, but this could become an author-level 
account, interestingly, it looks like they can edit their own articles, but 
not create them, at present - this role is assigned manually and there aren't 
very many of these
- Editor: can create, edit and publish content
- Administrator: can change roles of other users, edit forms and - I assume - 
change modules. Many of the editors also have admin roles, due having had the 
need to poke various things at different points

So, we lack an author role at the moment, which might be the good thing to 
add, but slightly more locked down than the Drupal defaults - workflow looks 
like a good fit for this, as you suggested...

> I think that most of the things that Jos discussed can be fixed by usually
> used drupal modules. However I would like to know the current workflow and
> how things work within Dot at the moment.

At present, most articles come in either via email directly or via email using 
the story submission form on the Dot. The only people who can create stories 
are the editors, so everything that is submitted has to be put into Drupal 
manually by an editor.

Thanks,
Stu


> Tassos
> 
> 2014-04-11 11:06 GMT+01:00 Stuart Jarvis <jarvis@kde.org>:
> > On Friday 11 April 2014 21:52:50 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Stuart Jarvis <jarvis@kde.org> wrote:
> > > > Yep, for stuff like basic image editing, Wordpress (e.g.) is way ahead
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > > the stuff we're using. It's a pain to have to take an image, make two
> > > > different size versions, upload them separately and then manually
> > 
> > insert
> > 
> > > > the correct addresses to them in the src and href attributes - we
> > > > often
> > > > put in typos here too. My guess is, there must be a module to make
> > > > this
> > > > easier, but I don't know Drupal well.
> > > 
> > > If anyone knows of such a module i'll be happy to deploy it on the Dot.
> > 
> > From a quick Google, maybe:
> > - https://drupal.org/project/imageeditor
> > (I know nothing about it other than reading that page - might be better
> > options - anyone else have experience?)
> > 
> > > In terms of Wordpress, it is quite painful to maintain - we currently
> > > want to remove the setup we have which supports a couple of sites
> > > (none of which are high traffic).
> > 
> > Yep, I understand. I wasn't advocating Wordpress for the Dot, just
> > pointing
> > out the main pain point for me in the Dot's Drupal compared to personal
> > experience with Wordpress.
> > 
> > The pain point is permissions - it would be nice to have people able to
> > make
> > their own articles but not publish them. Our solution in the past for
> > people
> > who it would be good to have that ability is to make them Dot editors, but
> > that also (of course) enables publishing, which should be quite a small
> > group
> > for coordination. I'm sure this will be possible, just needs someone to
> > drill
> > down into the Drupal roles and permissions - possibly it needs more
> > modules,
> > according to:
> > 
> > - https://drupal.org/node/328236
> > -
> > http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/7862/how-to-disable-publish-cont
> > ent-for-a-particular-role -
> > http://drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/3468/forbid-the-publication
> > 
> > Not knowing much about Drupal, I find it hard to judge... I/others will
> > either
> > need to do a fair bit of reading or perhaps other's on the list have some
> > more
> > knowledge on this?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Stu
> > 
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