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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Community ML
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-07-30 18:17:50
Message-ID: 1947610.q1DyWlJpf3 () linux-606j ! site
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On Tuesday 30 July 2013 08:30:24 Carl Symons wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:01 AM, Valorie Zimmerman
> 
> <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> > 
> > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Lydia Pintscher
> >> 
> >> <lydia.pintscher@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Carl Symons <carlsymons@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >>>> No press release. No Dot story.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If someone wants to write up something, a Dot editor can review and
> >>>> edit it. The story should include "So what...why is this news?" Just
> >>>> sending out the information about a mailing list isn't interesting or
> >>>> newsworthy.
> >>> 
> >>> It is on my plate as I was asked to do it to make it a bit more
> >>> official. If anyone wants to help let me know.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Lydia
> >> 
> >> Yes. I'm really excited about what this list can bring to the KDE
> >> community. Using the e.V. list for this purpose (general community
> >> stuff) is not open and transparent enough.
> >> 
> >> Valorie
> > 
> > I've jotted down some thoughts here:
> > https://notes.kde.org/p/KDE-Community_ML
> > 
> > Not quite there, however.
> > 
> > Valorie
> 
> Hello Valorie,
> 
> Thank you for your efforts.
> 
> The following is apparently intended to answer the question "Why is this
> news?" "And now we have a mail list to foster that community, open to all.
> In the past, much discussion of this sort happened on the e.V. list,
> which is open only to members. In the interest of transparency,
> members agreed that most discussion should be public, so the
> KDE-Community list has been created. All interested people are invited
> to join: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community"
> 
> It doesn't get the job done.
> 
> It's not compelling.
> * Why would a non-e.V. member join this?
> * What do they get out of it?
> * Where is content from all the people who argued for this?
> * From the perspective of a not-KDE-rabid-fan (aka The Audience), so what?
> 
> In addition, it's written from an in-crowd perspective. To
> explain...before Jos and Stu suggested that I become an e.V. member, I
> didn't know that e.V. existed. I knew that there was an inner circle,
> having once worked with a couple of inner circle people who obviously
> knew more about the particular project than I did.
> 
> From the perspective of a non-cognoscenti, this paragraph will
> probably raise all kinds of questions.
> 
> Rather than going through how it lands for me in detail, I encourage
> you and others who support the community mailing list to imagine the
> announcement from the point of view of someone who does not live and
> breathe KDE.
> 
> This announcement is gonna take some work...looking up comments that
> were part of the discussion, considering how other successful
> communities operate in this area, coming up with something that
> entices people to join in. I'm not able to do that.

I blogged about it, announcing it, got not much response.

I would recommend to find a time when there IS a big discussion on this mailing 
list and using that as something-to-announce.

I know, I know, it is quiet, chicken-eg and all that. But I am sure SOMETHING 
will come up. At some point. :D

/J

> Carl
> 
> 
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> 
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