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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Publish date with announcements?
From:       wayne speir <wspeir () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-02-28 19:20:04
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You guys don't really know me but I've used KDE since the 3.x days, worked
the KDE booth at SCALE and submitted an article for the KDE e.V.
quarterly report.
So I'm not just some guy off the street...

Please date things. Just do it. Doesn't have to be at the top but somewhere
would be appreciated.

I often read an article and think "When did this happen?" and can't find a
date.

Thank you and regards,

-- Wayne


On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:

> El Dijous, 28 de febrer de 2013, a les 15:41:14, Sebastian K=FCgler va
> escriure:
> > On Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:36:57 Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Sebastian K=FCgler <sebas@kde.org>
> wrote:
> > > Hey Martin,
> > >
> > > On Monday, February 25, 2013 19:00:40 Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > > > I was just looking for some info about KDE4 alpha 1 and the first
> search
> > > > result was the announcement from kde.org, which is great. However
> that
> > > > whole article has no date on it, so one has no idea when is that
> > > > announcement from. Then I found out that all the announcements have
> no
> > > > date, even article publishing. Given the announcements being
> archived, I
> > > > think it would make sense to add publish date to the web template.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-alpha1.php
> > >
> > > Look for "May 11, 2007", it's there on all announcement pages (that
> I've
> > > checked), right at the start of the announcement. That's consistent
> with
> > > how press releases are done.
> > >
> > > Ok, I got confused. What Google returns as a first result for 4.0
> alpha1
> > > is
> > > this: http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-4.0-alpha1.php -
> which
> > > is the visual guide, that has no link to the original announcement,
> albeit
> > > it does say the 4.0 will be out in October 2007. However - latest
> > > announcement - http://kde.org/announcements/4.10/ - has no date at
> all,
> > > same for 4.9 - http://kde.org/announcements/4.9/
> > >
> > > So when someone will be searching for those announcements, there's no
> > > indication of "when" this was released. And given it will be returned
> > > quite
> > > high in search results, I still think it would be good to have the da=
te
> > > there somewhere.
> >
> > Is that really so much of an issue? I mean, you specifically searched
> for an
> > old version, it's not like the information is misleading, or that peopl=
e
> > will be confused easily. It sounds a bit like overthinking it, to me.
>
> It is not about confusion, is it about finding the data where you expect
> it.
> If i am doing an article about when 4.9 was released, i expect to go to t=
he
> 4.9 announcement and find it, sure it is available in lots of other place=
s
> like the wikipedia, but that's not where i expect to find it.
>
> Now let me ask you, is it really so much of an issue to add a single line
> with
> the date?
>
> Cheers,
>   Albert
>
>
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<div dir="ltr">You guys don&#39;t really know me but I&#39;ve used KDE since the 3.x \
days, worked the KDE booth at SCALE and submitted an article for the <span \
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">KDE e.V. quarterly </span><span \
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">report. So I&#39;m not just some \
guy off the street...</span><div> <span \
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div style><span \
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Please date things. Just do it. \
Doesn&#39;t have to be at the top but somewhere would be appreciated. </span></div> \
<div style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div \
style><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I often read an \
article and think &quot;When did this happen?&quot; and can&#39;t find a \
date.</span></div> <div style><br></div><div style><font face="arial, \
sans-serif">Thank you and regards,</font></div><div style><font face="arial, \
sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style><font face="arial, sans-serif">-- \
Wayne</font></div></div> <div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On \
Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Albert Astals Cid <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:aacid@kde.org" target="_blank">aacid@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px \
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> El Dijous, 28 de febrer de 2013, a les 15:41:14, \
Sebastian Kügler va escriure:<br> <div><div class="h5">&gt; On Thursday, February 28, \
2013 10:36:57 Martin Klapetek wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:23 PM, \
Sebastian Kügler &lt;<a href="mailto:sebas@kde.org">sebas@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br> \
&gt; &gt; Hey Martin,<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Monday, February 25, 2013 19:00:40 Martin Klapetek wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; I was just looking for some info about KDE4 alpha 1 and the first \
search<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; result was the announcement from <a href="http://kde.org" \
target="_blank">kde.org</a>, which is great. However that<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; whole \
article has no date on it, so one has no idea when is that<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; \
announcement from. Then I found out that all the announcements have no<br> &gt; &gt; \
&gt; date, even article publishing. Given the announcements being archived, I<br> \
&gt; &gt; &gt; think it would make sense to add publish date to the web template.<br> \
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br> &gt; &gt; &gt; What do you think?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-alpha1.php" \
target="_blank">http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0-alpha1.php</a><br> &gt; \
&gt;<br> &gt; &gt; Look for &quot;May 11, 2007&quot;, it&#39;s there on all \
announcement pages (that I&#39;ve<br> &gt; &gt; checked), right at the start of the \
announcement. That&#39;s consistent with<br> &gt; &gt; how press releases are \
done.<br> &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Ok, I got confused. What Google returns as a first result for 4.0 \
alpha1<br> &gt; &gt; is<br>
&gt; &gt; this: <a href="http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-4.0-alpha1.php" \
target="_blank">http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-4.0-alpha1.php</a> - \
which<br> &gt; &gt; is the visual guide, that has no link to the original \
announcement, albeit<br> &gt; &gt; it does say the 4.0 will be out in October 2007. \
However - latest<br> &gt; &gt; announcement - <a \
href="http://kde.org/announcements/4.10/" \
target="_blank">http://kde.org/announcements/4.10/</a> - has no date at all,<br> &gt; \
&gt; same for 4.9 - <a href="http://kde.org/announcements/4.9/" \
target="_blank">http://kde.org/announcements/4.9/</a><br> &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; So when someone will be searching for those announcements, there&#39;s \
no<br> &gt; &gt; indication of &quot;when&quot; this was released. And given it will \
be returned<br> &gt; &gt; quite<br>
&gt; &gt; high in search results, I still think it would be good to have the date<br>
&gt; &gt; there somewhere.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is that really so much of an issue? I mean, you specifically searched for an<br>
&gt; old version, it&#39;s not like the information is misleading, or that people<br>
&gt; will be confused easily. It sounds a bit like overthinking it, to me.<br>
<br>
</div></div>It is not about confusion, is it about finding the data where you expect \
it.<br> If i am doing an article about when 4.9 was released, i expect to go to \
the<br> 4.9 announcement and find it, sure it is available in lots of other \
places<br> like the wikipedia, but that&#39;s not where i expect to find it.<br>
<br>
Now let me ask you, is it really so much of an issue to add a single line with<br>
the date?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
  Albert<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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