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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] 4.9 release notes
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jos () opensuse ! org>
Date:       2012-07-27 18:27:48
Message-ID: 7344856.C5NPf8bIyX () linux-6upc
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On Monday 23 July 2012 19:48:16 Anne Wilson wrote:
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> On 23/07/12 18:32, Carl Symons wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> > 
> > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Jos Poortvliet
> >> 
> >> <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
> >>> On Friday 20 July 2012 21:52:36 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday 19 July 2012 13:03:21 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Just a quick reminder: 4.9.0 is at the door, and we need
> >>>>> release notes for that. I won't be able to work on that as
> >>>>> I'll be travelling until one day before the release, but I
> >>>>> also haven't seen any work on that (might have missed it).
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Is anybody planning to work on the release notes?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>> 
> >>>> I see Carl already created a pad:
> >>>> https://promo.notes.kde.org/76
> >>>> 
> >>>> It is currently a copy of the 4.8 announcement with minor
> >>>> changes. I'm adding some things now from
> >>>> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan
> >>>> 
> >>>> but more will be needed. I'll try and go through some commit
> >>>> digests but that's a LOT of work... If anyone wants to help
> >>>> with that, pick a few, starting around the release of 4.8,
> >>>> look for the big features (in the summary!) and mention here
> >>>> which ones you've already covered. Make sure that, if you
> >>>> add things, to check if it's actually in 4.9! Looking for the
> >>>> 
> >>>>  specific commit can help in that regard, or testing of
> >>>> 
> >>>> course.
> >>> 
> >>> I've gone through the commit digests too. I think all we'll
> >>> get is in the article now, it just needs screenshots, editing
> >>> and - well, that'll be it.
> >>> 
> >>> XX Jos
> >>> 
> >>>> Hugs, Jos
> >> 
> >> I've gone through and edited some for clarity, spelling,
> >> grammar, etc. There is an unfinished sentence which Jos might
> >> look at. I marked it with a question mark so it stands out.
> >> 
> >> It seems we need David Faure to look at the Frameworks part near
> >> the end. (dfaure: https://promo.notes.kde.org/76). He's CD'd on
> >> this.
> >> 
> >> Valorie
> > 
> > Content and clarity are what's needed. Editing will come when the
> > whole announcement is complete (somewhat of a waste of time before
> > 
> >  then). For people who want to review, it would be helpful to look
> > 
> > at the announcement from the perspective of users and casual
> > readers to make sure that it's clear and complete.
> 
> While I understand the reason for it, from a user perspective the
> rebranding exercise was unwieldy and unpleasant.  I fell over
> backwards trying to make every UserBase page comply, but often there
> was not a single way of phrasing a sentence that made the rebranding
> sound natural.
> 
> I still use the preferred terms when I reasonably can, but frankly,
> most users use "KDE" as meaning the whole experience of using KDE
> software.  To fall back on an old saying "Don't get your knickers in a
> twist" when things are not exactly as you'd like :-)

/me thinks someone has her threads mixed up ;-)

But yes, the whole thing was and still is a bit messy. I do think it'll 
start clearing up, seeing some discussions on the release management list - 
I'm guessing the split we hoped to support with the rebranding will happen 
sooner rather than later. At that point, we won't be releasing all three 
parts together anymore and the term 'I run KDE 4.7' becomes rather 
meaningless while using the separate terms becomes more useful.

So, in short - with the rebranding efforts now, we're trying to adjust 
reality to theory. I think, once reality changes, things will get easier :D

Note that I really believe that, while we didn't get a full 360 degrees 
shift everywhere, the message DID land in many places. When you talk to 
people at conferences and they mention KDE, they often (if they know you're 
a KDE dude/girl) will appologise for 'using the word wrong'. In other words, 
there IS a lot of awareness of our rebranding. By many people, KDE is seen 
as more as just the thing we release and esp in the community, the 
possibility of doing a split has become far easier to discuss with the new 
branding. So all in all, I think it wasn't as bad as it sometimes seems.

On that note, knowing how hard this is, I (we) really appreciate the efforts 
of people like you, Anne, to help make these changes. I really believe that 
without the support of you (and others) it would have been far less 
successful.

Hugs,
Jos

> Anne
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