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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] 4.9 release notes
From:       Baltasar Ortega <baltolkien () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-07-26 14:01:49
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Hi:
Tomorrow I will make the Party in Vila-real.
I need news about the Release but I can't see the etherpad...
Anybody can help me?
Thanks in advance
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Salutacions



2012/7/23 Anne Wilson <annew@kde.org>

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> On 23/07/12 18:32, Carl Symons wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Valorie Zimmerman
> > <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Jos Poortvliet
> >> <jos@opensuse.org> wrote:
> >>> On Friday 20 July 2012 21:52:36 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday 19 July 2012 13:03:21 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a quick reminder: 4.9.0 is at the door, and we need
> >>>>> release notes for that. I won't be able to work on that as
> >>>>> I'll be travelling until one day before the release, but I
> >>>>> also haven't seen any work on that (might have missed it).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is anybody planning to work on the release notes?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>
> >>>> I see Carl already created a pad:
> >>>> https://promo.notes.kde.org/76
> >>>>
> >>>> It is currently a copy of the 4.8 announcement with minor
> >>>> changes. I'm adding some things now from
> >>>> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan
> >>>>
> >>>> but more will be needed. I'll try and go through some commit
> >>>> digests but that's a LOT of work... If anyone wants to help
> >>>> with that, pick a few, starting around the release of 4.8,
> >>>> look for the big features (in the summary!) and mention here
> >>>> which ones you've already covered. Make sure that, if you
> >>>> add things, to check if it's actually in 4.9! Looking for the
> >>>>  specific commit can help in that regard, or testing of
> >>>> course.
> >>>
> >>> I've gone through the commit digests too. I think all we'll
> >>> get is in the article now, it just needs screenshots, editing
> >>> and - well, that'll be it.
> >>>
> >>> XX Jos
> >>>
> >>>> Hugs, Jos
> >>
> >> I've gone through and edited some for clarity, spelling,
> >> grammar, etc. There is an unfinished sentence which Jos might
> >> look at. I marked it with a question mark so it stands out.
> >>
> >> It seems we need David Faure to look at the Frameworks part near
> >> the end. (dfaure: https://promo.notes.kde.org/76). He's CD'd on
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Valorie
> >>
> >
> > Content and clarity are what's needed. Editing will come when the
> > whole announcement is complete (somewhat of a waste of time before
> >  then). For people who want to review, it would be helpful to look
> > at the announcement from the perspective of users and casual
> > readers to make sure that it's clear and complete.
> >
> While I understand the reason for it, from a user perspective the
> rebranding exercise was unwieldy and unpleasant.  I fell over
> backwards trying to make every UserBase page comply, but often there
> was not a single way of phrasing a sentence that made the rebranding
> sound natural.
>
> I still use the preferred terms when I reasonably can, but frankly,
> most users use "KDE" as meaning the whole experience of using KDE
> software.  To fall back on an old saying "Don't get your knickers in a
> twist" when things are not exactly as you'd like :-)
>
> Anne
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Hi:<br>Tomorrow I will make the Party in Vila-real.<br>I need news about the Release \
but I can&#39;t see the etherpad...<br>Anybody can help me?<br>Thanks in advance<br \
clear="all">-----<br>Salutacions<br><br> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/7/23 \
Anne Wilson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:annew@kde.org" \
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On 23/07/12 18:32, Carl Symons wrote:<br>
&gt; On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Valorie Zimmerman<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com">valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br> &gt;&gt; On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Jos Poortvliet<br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:jos@opensuse.org">jos@opensuse.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Friday 20 July 2012 21:52:36 Jos Poortvliet wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thursday 19 July 2012 13:03:21 Sebastian Kügler wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just a quick reminder: 4.9.0 is at the door, and we need<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; release notes for that. I won&#39;t be able to work on that \
as<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;ll be travelling until one day before the release, \
but I<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; also haven&#39;t seen any work on that (might have \
missed it).<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is anybody planning to work on the release notes?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I see Carl already created a pad:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="https://promo.notes.kde.org/76" \
target="_blank">https://promo.notes.kde.org/76</a><br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It is currently a copy of the 4.8 announcement with minor<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; changes. I&#39;m adding some things now from<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan" \
target="_blank">http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.9_Feature_Plan</a><br> \
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; but more will be needed. I&#39;ll try and go \
through some commit<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; digests but that&#39;s a LOT of work... If \
anyone wants to help<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; with that, pick a few, starting around the \
release of 4.8,<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; look for the big features (in the summary!) and \
mention here<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; which ones you&#39;ve already covered. Make sure \
that, if you<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; add things, to check if it&#39;s actually in 4.9! \
Looking for the<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;   specific commit can help in that regard, or \
testing of<br> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; course.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve gone through the commit digests too. I think all we&#39;ll<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; get is in the article now, it just needs screenshots, editing<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; and - well, that&#39;ll be it.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; XX Jos<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hugs, Jos<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve gone through and edited some for clarity, spelling,<br>
&gt;&gt; grammar, etc. There is an unfinished sentence which Jos might<br>
&gt;&gt; look at. I marked it with a question mark so it stands out.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It seems we need David Faure to look at the Frameworks part near<br>
&gt;&gt; the end. (dfaure: <a href="https://promo.notes.kde.org/76" \
target="_blank">https://promo.notes.kde.org/76</a>). He&#39;s CD&#39;d on<br> \
&gt;&gt; this.<br> &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Valorie<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Content and clarity are what&#39;s needed. Editing will come when the<br>
&gt; whole announcement is complete (somewhat of a waste of time before<br>
&gt;   then). For people who want to review, it would be helpful to look<br>
&gt; at the announcement from the perspective of users and casual<br>
&gt; readers to make sure that it&#39;s clear and complete.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div>While I understand the reason for it, from a user perspective the<br>
rebranding exercise was unwieldy and unpleasant.   I fell over<br>
backwards trying to make every UserBase page comply, but often there<br>
was not a single way of phrasing a sentence that made the rebranding<br>
sound natural.<br>
<br>
I still use the preferred terms when I reasonably can, but frankly,<br>
most users use &quot;KDE&quot; as meaning the whole experience of using KDE<br>
software.   To fall back on an old saying &quot;Don&#39;t get your knickers in a<br>
twist&quot; when things are not exactly as you&#39;d like :-)<br>
<br>
Anne<br>
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